Date: 22-Sep-86 23:56 MST

MENASHA, Wis. (AP) -- Aliens from other planets have spirited two Menasha women off to space at least seven times each in the past 11 years, according to the pair, who insist "We're not kooks."

Judie Woolcott and Bonnie Meyer head a loosely knit group called the Fox Valley UFO Discussion & Support Group, which meets Sunday nights. The two say they realized only in the last year with the help of hypnotherapy that they had been abducted by space beings. A Milwaukee hypnotherapist conducts their sessions.

"We didn't know we were abducted," Ms. Woolcott said. "A lot of people are abducted and they don't know it," Ms. Meyer added. "Your mind blocks it out."

The two say they were abducted together six times and once each separtely. Ms. Woolcott declined to give details of her abduction. But Ms. Meyer said she remembers being taken while her family slept. She said she called for help, but the aliens put her family in suspended animation and they couldn't respond.

Ms. Woolcott said she first became interested in unidentified flying objects when she photographed a streak of light she called a UFO several years ago. The reaction of her long-time friend, Ms. Meyer, was to consider hospitalizing Ms. Woolcott, the two said.

The two also described a joint abduction and say they spent time on another planet that took 93 minutes to reach on an alien craft. The two say they were taken after a UFO meeting in Appleton when their two families were camping in New London. The night they were abducted, they left Appleton at 10:30 p.m., but didn't get to the campsite until 1:30 a.m.

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They have since timed the drive from Appleton to the campsite at 32 minutes, but couldn't account for the missing time until they were hypnotized.

"I said, `Oh my God,' we really were aboard a spacecraft," Ms. Woolcott said. "It's one thing to say it, but it's another to find out that it's true."

The women say space beings don't look like human beings. Ms. Meyer also noted that during one of her abductions, space creatures put microscopic implants behind her ears. The devices force feed information into her brain, she said.

"I'm not supposed to understand yet," she said. "We are being taught to help the people of Earth."

Both women say they're used to people not believing them. "We've gotten so used to being called kooks and crazy that we don't pay any attention to it anymore," Ms. Meyer said.

But, "We're not kooks," Ms. Woolcott said.

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