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FILE NO. 010


In the Spring of 1989, UFO UNIVERSE published an article by
Robert W. Boyajian, titled ‘CONQUEST EARTH? – A SHOCKING LOOK
Interview with Sergeant Clifford Stone, on assignment at Roswell,
New Mexico):

“In the course of my UFO investigations, I established
contact with Aileen Edwards, Director of the UFO Contact Center
International, Seattle, Washington. For several years, Aileen
has been doing excellent work getting people released from mental
institutions that do not understand the UFO contact or abduction
phenomenon. Many of these unfortunate patients have been given
dangerous neurolytic drugs as means of ‘treating’ their
“As a result of our conversations, Aileen placed me in touch
with Sergeant Clifford Earl Stone of the United States Army, who
is currently stationed at Roswell, New Mexico, which is near the
site of the most famous crash-UFO case of all time which
allegedly took place in 1947, and involved the recovery of
several alien bodies by the military.
“What I have found out by speaking with Sergeant Stone can
only be labeled ‘sensational.’ But before we get to the main
body of our interview, I should point out that much of his
testimony can now be verified by others connected with the
intelligence community. For example, recently there was aired on
national television a two hour special, ‘UFO COVERUP – LIVE FROM
WASHINGTON.’ Among the most interesting features of this program
were the on-the-air confessions of two mysterious individuals
whose true identities remain a secret, but who go by the code
names ‘Falcon’ and ‘Condor.’ Their faces were hidden at all
times, and their voices altered through a muting device. From
what I have discovered, however, Falcon is an OSI agent, while
Condor is a scientist working for the U.S. government.
“On the show, Condor told of a deal the government made with
the aliens: ‘Essentially, the agreement says that we won’t
disclose your existence if you won’t interfere in our society,
and we allow you to operate from a designated base in the United
States.’ It’s in the state of Nevada, in an area called Area 51.
Extraterrestrials have complete control of the base. My
understanding is that three different aliens of the same species
has resided in the U.S. from 1948 or 1949 until the present day.
The first alien was captured in the New Mexican desert after its
craft crashed. The alien, which was named EBE by the government
was kept in captivity for three years and we learned a great deal
of information about the alien’s race, culture and spacecraft.
The second alien was part of an exchange program. The third
alien was also part of an exchange program and has been the guest
of the U.S. government since 1982.’
“…this knowledge has long been classified at exceedingly
high levels, and has not been released even though various court
battles have been fought to obtain the truth under the Freedom of
Information Act. The much talked-about MJ-12 briefing document
was a ‘leak’ made by sources unknown, there have been several
others, and yet further revelations have been promised by those
working inside the ‘establishment’ who are convinced the public
must be told EVERYTHING and NOW!…”
The interview between Mr. Boyajion of UFO UNIVERSE and Sgt.
Stone went as follows:
“UFO UNIVERSE: In reference to Condor’s statement about Area
51 in the state of Nevada, what do you personally feel about this
in your studies?
“CLIFFORD STONE: I believe that the American people has a
right to know what is going on…
“UU: Do you feel there’s a war going on perhaps between
different types of aliens?
“CS: Yes, I do. I believe what is presently termed the
‘greys’ may very well be the (entities) that the U.S. government
has the pact with right now, and they are not necessarily the
‘good guys.’
“UU: Do you feel that these grey guys are evil?
“CS: Well…there are some things I prefer not to talk
about. But I’ll tell you this much. First, I believe that there
is a God. And I firmly believe that God made man and all
intelligent life to be a free agent, to chose HIS own validity.
Abductions are REAL. Abductions are taking place. People are
being forced to undergo – partake in various experiments – for
whatever reason by our alien visitors.
“UU: What else would give you the impression that these guys
are evil, cut and dry? Is there a case you can cite?
“CS: O.K., this is supposition. One gentleman who was doing
research into it reported a military intrusion on an alien base,
right here in New Mexico. Well, the military tried to go in and
take over the base (It was mentioned that a similar event took
place in Nevada). Sixty-six servicemen were supposedly killed
there. The aliens had the base, it was an underground base and
allegedly the military sent in some of their elite forces,
probably equated to a Delta force, elite, anti-terrorist force,
if you wish.
“UU: How did they find this base?
“CS: Well, it was part of the allegedly secret agreement
that we would let them have bases, therefore we knew about the
base. There was some type of argument that broke out between our
people and the aliens.
“UU: So there are many bases throughout the country?
“CS: There are rumors of many bases. Given that these
stories are true, I think that they probably have 12 or fewer
bases. The greys may have various, let’s say, hideouts. As far
as actual full scale operational bases, there’s probably 12 or
“UU: And where are you getting your information?
“CS: From, we’ll say, other researchers that wish to remain
sort of silent.
“UU: What position are you in the army at present?
“CS: I’m in an ROTC assignment.
“UU: How long have you been in the army?
“CS: Twenty years.
“UU: Your friends who remain anonymous are within the
different services of the government I take it?
“CS: Well, for example, I was stationed at an Air Force base
and one guy went and came to my home and identified himself as a
fighter pilot and told me about an aircraft that he was piloting.
I believe it was over the Pacific Ocean. Anyhow, it got real
dark all of a sudden. He reported looking up and he and the
other crew members saw what they described as a vehicle that was
3 miles long (Three miles in a circular expansion). As far as I
know it stayed with them for 15 or 20 minutes and then went
straight over the aircraft and got out in front of them and shot
straight up, out of sight.
“UU: Where did you derive the idea that our government is
making deals with aliens? What gave you this type of notion?
“CS: The Snowbird document. This document refers to us
making primitive contact with the aliens in 1959. On April 25,
1964, we managed to carry on a 3 hour conversation which was the
onset of the agreement at a base here in New Mexico. I believe
that base was Holloman Air Force Base. The agreement involving
an exchange of technology and our silence. By going ahead and
not having any interference with the aliens, in exchange they
gave us the technology and we agreed to keep quiet about their
presence. That right there is sinister in itself.
“UU: How do you mean sinister in itself?
“CS: We have to go back to the abductions. For some reason
they don’t want the people to remember what happened. Well here
you have people who had contact with alien beings, who have lost
everything. They’ve went ahead and have family problems, they’ve
lost their jobs, a lot of them have become reclusive, they have
mental problems because they can’t cope with what happened to
them. They know that they’ve had some type of experience, but a
lot of the time they would have nightmares. They can’t explain
“UU: Because it was repressed in their subconscious?
“CS: Correct. Maybe by design, or it may be just because
the body’s own self-defensive mechanism is trying to cope with
something that is beyond it’s comprehension…
“UU: What about the benevolent beings that are said to
exist, who abide by higher laws that do not allow them to
interfere – aren’t they trying to help?
“CS: The good guys are, well, I like to refer to them as
being nomadic. What you’re talking about, about the non-
intervention with other intelligent life forms is a universal
law. The nomadics go along with that. The greys violated the
universal law.
“UU: What else can you say about the benevolent space
“CS: They have a high regard for life. I believe, shall we
say, ‘the good forces,’ they don’t really want any interaction
with us. They choose to just go ahead and just observe.
“UU: Silent guardians. So it seems what they’re trying to
do is balance what the greys imbalanced.
“CS: I would agree with that…
“UU: When you were describing that there are approximately 3
different types of hostile aliens from Zeta Reticuli, would you
describe further what you mean by that?
“CS: At present time, I believe that the government has
identified several groups. We break these down by EBE
(extraterrestrial biological entities) type 1,2,3 – I think we
are about up to 7 that have been identified (however, as Lear and
others indicate, these seem to fall into either the reptilian or
human categories – Branton). Well…seven types of space
travelers, or inter-dimensional travelers, if you wish. When I
refer to inter-dimensional travel, I am referring, utilizing the
Einsteinian, Rosen, Bridges for that travel… I’m going to tell
you the situation as I understand now. The greys will eventually
come forth and try to state that they created Christ. This is
not the case. They did not create Christ. Christ was and is a
divine entity. He was sent here by the Creator, not the Creator
of just the world, but the universe… I believe that they (the
greys) are involved with the actual cattle mutilations. Now
there are some copycats, and the government tries to get mileage
off the copycats, and the government may have even went ahead and
staged some – just to throw off the extraterrestrial connection.
“UU: Can you give more detail… regarding the greys, the
subtleties ahead, and how to avoid any mishap?
“CS: You mean how to identify if your working with a good
guy or bad guy? For one thing there are the religious
(activities) the bad guys are not happy with. For example, there
was an instance where they tried to pick up a farmer…he started
to pray and they couldn’t take him aboard the craft… He kept
praying and finally they gave up trying to abduct him. There was
also an incident in Vietnam where a UFO set down in a field. It
terrorized some of the villagers, and there was a soldier who was
out visiting his girlfriend, who would later become his wife.
Anyhow, he got tied up there and the UFO was trying to convince
some of the people they should go. It wanted to take some of the
people. The soldier stood his ground and wouldn’t let the
entities do it. The M16 that the soldier had was impervious to
the aliens, but the cross that he always wore, and he always
carried a Bible, they had regard for that. Finally, they gave up
and decided not to try to take any of the people…
“UU: What type of mentality are we dealing with when we’re
talking about the secret deals made with ETs?
“CS: Let’s go back and look at what happened as far as our
deepening involvement at the onset of the Vietnam war. Take a
look at what happened with the Iran affair. The situation is
that there are elements within our government that sometimes act
all on their own without congressional restraints, which
ultimately affects the entire American population. In this case,
it will ultimately have an affect on the entire population of the
world. Up until about 1985, I would not have believed any of
this. As a result of coming into contact with the SNOWBIRD
DOCUMENT, I am left with no recourse but to believe that we have
made these agreements – rightly or wrongly. I believe what is
going to eventually happen is that they will make themselves
known and immediately go ahead and try to destroy society as we
know society…
“UU: On the broadcast ‘UFO COVERUP LIVE’, they spoke of an
exchange program where we sent two of our guys up into their
crafts. This aspect of the exchange program, do you feel any of
this is true?
“CS: It follows accepted diplomatic procedures.
“UU: What is the purpose of revealing this information at
this time?
“CS: I think it’s to try to prepare the American public for
the ultimate disclosure of the existence of the alien beings. I
think there is the effort for the good guys to make contact with
the people within our government, but I think now what is
happening is that the U.S. government learned in 1983 or
thereabout that they are NOT dealing with the good guys, but
really don’t know what to do about it.
“UU: So how can they get out of this? What would your
suggestion be?
“CS: Well, my suggestion would be to stand up to the greys.
Let them know that this is a free society, that we are not going
to sit back and let anyone – be they from outer space or some
other foreign country – convert the people of the United States.
“UU: You said that the government didn’t know that they were
dealing with the bad guys at first. How would the government
figure out that these entities were evil? What would make them
think that? What would make them decide all of a sudden?
“CS: Let us suppose that we make a deal with a group of
aliens. Among other things we agreed that they can have
prearranged bases. We will provide security and we will not
acknowledge their existence to the general public. In return,
they’re going to go ahead and carry on certain experimentations,
gathering various minerals, getting various flora, various animal
life. They’re also going to go ahead and conduct some
experiments or some research on human beings. Now this troubles
us because we don’t want that to get out of hand, so we bargain a
little deeper and we come to the agreement that, okay, if you
abduct anyone we need to know who they are so that if there are
any problems in the future we can go ahead and take care of those
people who may need medical or psychological attention, so we can
assist with this. They say, fine, we will provide you with say a
list of all abductees. Later, we find out that they are
providing us with maybe a hundred or two hundred abductions maybe
every couple of months, but we discover that the number is really
into the thousands. We also find out that this scientific
curiosity is also being used to tag these people, i.e. the
implants, and we are not being told why they are doing this. Now
we no longer have control over the abductions. We might even
find that there might even be a scarier aspect to it – let’s say
some of these abductees appear to be ‘sleepers,’ there is some
type of information that they’re being fed, a post-hypnotic
suggestion for lack of a better term. But don’t think that this
is hypnotic at all – it’s not. It is a very much advanced
technological process. Anyhow, they are being told at a certain
time, a certain place in the future, they are going to be
required to recall things that they are being told at this time,
right toward the end of the experimentation or whatever is going
on. However, alien forces want this to be kept so secret that if
you try to pull this out of them while they’re under hypnosis, it
will cause the body functions to become under stress.
“UU: Have there been any intervention with the benevolent
beings in this matter?
“UU: An obvious dispute among aliens themselves? What do
you feel was the outcome?
“CS: The good won. Right now I think that the good are
trying to ‘build up their forces.’ I think the greys were very
concerned about the crash at Roswell, New Mexico, because we had
something that they were identifying as a weapons system – and
that was a very strong radar tracking system. They lost several
ships to that. The aliens initially, having identified that as a
weapons system of ours, adjusted their craft so that the high
powered radar would not cause on-board difficulties. The greys
assisted in keeping the story quiet about the Roswell incident
without – how can I put this – ‘open contact’ with the government
at that time (Note: This is conceivable as radar operates through
powerful electromagnetic rays and thus may have an adverse affect
on a craft utilizing electromagnetic propulsion or operational
systems – Branton).
“UU: Have you heard of such a thing as MIB or Men In Black
in relation to such incidents as these?
“CS: Yes. There is a well known newsperson who was involved
with the UFO crash here in Roswell in 1947. He had his life
threatened if he tried to go ahead and break the story. He’s
maintained silence ever since. He’s talked a couple of times,
but will never come out and fully tell the whole story.
“UU: Did any of the occupants make themselves known to our
people at that time?
“CS: Here again, I’d have to go back to the reporter who was
approached by an entity. And I don’t think the entity that he
was approached by was of this Earth. It was your classic MIB
saying, ‘Look, stay out of this one!’ Point blank he was told,
‘If you try to break the story, you’ll die.’ Around that time we
also started to lose jet aircraft that were sent aloft to
intercept UFOs. Most of the time these were written off as
aircraft having malfunctioned that caused their crash. Some of
the aircraft simply vanished without a trace. One incident
happened here in Roswell, probably early 1950s. The family still
lives here. Two aircraft were sent aloft to intercept a UFO and
make the identification of the object as picked up on radar. One
plane returned. To this day, one plane and a pilot never
“UU: Is there any information in reference to the joint
operations that such a govt.-alien alliance is doing beneath the
“CS: Supposition (is) there’s a lot of genetic work going on
down there. For example, there have been people who have claimed
to have been taken to underground installations where they
observed comatose people in these underground installations.
There are also reports of various vats with human parts. One
woman reported seeing what appeared as a very Earthly male who
was in a vat of some type of fluid in one of the underground
installations. Quite a few of the people have alleged that they
have been taken to these underground installations and have been
kept there for days.
“UU: And why were they let free once they knew of such an
installation, let’s say, if they’re trying to hush that up?
“CS: The vast majority, the man on the street isn’t going to
believe them anyhow. There are allegations that some are either
military or working with the government that were brought down
“UU: Are you saying that you are not very clear on what goes
on down there? You’ve never met anyone who had anymore to say on
“CS: I’m saying I can’t be very clear.
“UU: In other words, it’s a little too intense to talk
“CS: Yes. I have an interest in UFOs and I’ve had to
recently go through one heck of a battle with the military to
express my first amendment right to voice my dissatisfaction with
the U.S. government keeping this information suppressed. There
are certain things that even as a private citizen that I have to
be very careful about suggesting.
“UU: What part of the government would have jurisdiction in
association with these aliens?
“CS: They would probably be the National Security Agency,
they report directly to the National Security Council. As a
matter of fact, it sets in on the National Security Council.
“UU: Are there people within this agency that realize that
they’ve gotten into a little mess?
“CS: Yes, I think so. I think right now those that are in
the know are sort of divided as to whether they should go public
or try to keep it secret. The TV show ‘UFO COVERUP’, wasn’t
really well handled. They didn’t really know how to go about
bringing out the information that they do have. The situation is
that of a programming process, the government wanted some of that
information to be released. That I feel is a fact. Now they
took that program from Washington and they really wanted to see
what the reaction of the American society would be as a whole.
How we would react to it. If the U.S. government ever comes
forth and states – and eventually I feel within a very few short
years, possibly even months – they’re going to have to do that.
They’re going to have to come out and say that UFOs are a
“UU: I heard you were going to Germany?
“CS: I will be separated from my family for at least two
years as a result of it. They were going to put me out of the
Army because of my interest in UFOs. I want to stay in right
now – when I get out I want it to be my choice, not because they
forced me out. Are you aware that this is a very, very hard
subject matter? I mean it’s so far out in left field I avoid
it…but I’ll bring it up anyhow. Do you know that there are
reports that some of the alien ships do a harvest of the souls?
In other words, they feed off the living energy, which is in fact
the living soul.
“UU: Have you read Budd Hopkins’ books?
“CS: Yes, I read both Budd Hopkins’ books. Budd is very
close to the truth, but the full truth is a horror story that is
beyond any science fiction that you have ever read.

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“UU: Are there entities of the more benevolent sort that are
abducting people?
“CS: That’s correct. What they do, I would say, that they
have more of a scientific curiosity (referring her to the
blondes? – Branton).
“UU: They have more of a compassion, you would say?
“CS: Correct. As a matter of fact, if there was a situation
where you had a weapon that could kill them and they could not
escape, other than do you harm, they would permit themselves to
be killed. The situation with the abduction cases, in dealing
with the bad guys, is that they will go ahead and make a person
try to recall the bad times of their lives. Then the people
relive those experiences, they go back to the way they felt when
that experience was happening, they bring to mind the things they
fear the most, they bring this out because they actually absorb
something similar to osmosis these feelings that they actually
feed off of. (i.e. feed off of our fear? – Branton)
“UU: So you’re saying that these particular entities that
are working in this fashion are the very entities that our
government made these deals with?
“CS: Yes.
“UU: Are the people within these government installations
who are working with these entities experiencing such traumas, or
are they left alone?
“CS: I don’t think that they are experiencing trauma because
they need those people as part of the grand deception. Keep in
mind, while they’re dealing with them on the physical plane
they’re also actually dealing with an interdimensional
“UU: Like an astral phenomenon?
“CS: Yes…
“UU: …Do you think that the government is dealing with two
types of aliens?
“CS: I definitely think that they are dealing with two types
of entities, but you’ve got to keep in mind one thing – the good
guys are not going to give us anything to kill our fellow man.
“UU: If you were to see this in an article, is there
something that you would like to say?
“CS: Definitely. ‘Shut me up and shut the other people up
that are like me. Go ahead and have an unbiased congressional
investigation into the UFO matter. Give across the board
immunity to any and all service members and civilian government
workers who have any knowledge of crashed retrieval aircraft or
underground bases to let them come talk freely to a congressional
committee on UFOs so that they might talk and clear the air. Get
it out that UFOs are a reality. They are here now, they have
underground bases. If they go ahead and grant that immunity
you’ll have people come forth and talk. But they will not talk
unless that immunity is granted. Now if I’m wrong – go ahead and
offer it, set up a committee, a congressional committee to hear
all the evidence, weigh all the facts – then it’s a put up or
shut up proposition.’
“UU: Why haven’t the aliens just simply infiltrated in
relation to these government deals.
“CS: The U.S. government may believe that there’s no defense
and that they are highly evolved and technologically superior to
us. There are those of us, however, that firmly believe – or
should I say know – that there are defenses against these folks.
In unity there is strength. That strength is derived from
knowledge. The knowledge that must be had is the knowledge of
the truth. With the truth we can go ahead and combat these

The following information was released by Leading Edge
Research and describes some additional details concerning the
serpent race/greys based upon the findings of several researchers
who have pooled their investigations in order to find out more
about this apparent enemy of mankind. The following scenario
emerged from this cooperative effort (emphasis ours – Branton):
“NOTES ON ALF (Alien Life Forms): Term used by the
government to describe the Greys in terms of being a MALEVOLENT
life form. The deal with the Greys is that their field around
their body is different (from) ours to the point where merging of
the fields ends up creating physical symptoms (the ‘body terror’
mentioned by people like Whitley Strieber). The field around
them is in direct opposition to ours. IT IS AN ANTI-LIFE
being ‘vampiristic’ in their nature – Branton). They implant
small devices near the brain which potentially GIVES THEM TOTAL
difficult to detect. The analysis of the devices by technical
staff has produced a description that involves use of crystalline
technology combined with molecular circuitry and these ride on
the resonant emissions of the brain and the various fields of the
human (body). Information is entrained on the brain waves. It
appears that all attempts to remove the implants (1972) have
resulted in the death of the human. They perform surgery and
other operations on human subjects. These abductions continue to
be an ongoing matter. A list of abductees is provided
periodically to MAJI, although IT IS KNOWN THAT MANY MORE ARE
ABDUCTED THAN ARE REPORTED… Various descriptions of the ALF’s
relate the following characteristics: Between 3 to 5 feet in
height, erect standing biped, small thin build, head larger than
humans, absence of auditory lobes (external), absence of body
hair, large… eyes (slanted approximately 35 degrees) WHICH ARE
MANTIS (normal attitude) which reach to the knees, long hands
with small palm, CLAW-LIKE FINGERS (various number of digits –
often two short digits and two long, but some species have three
or four fingers), tough gray skin WHICH IS REPTILIAN IN TEXTURE,
small feet WITH FOUR SMALL CLAW-LIKE TOES… a non-functioning
digestive system; TWO SEPARATE BRAINS; movement is deliberate,
extreme circumstances they can subsist on other (cattle, etc.)
animal fluids. Food is converted to energy by Chlorophyll, by a
photosynthetic process (this supports results gained from
autopsies at 29 Palms underground base where it was seen that
their ‘blood’ was greenish and the tissue was black). Waste
products are secreted through the skin. The two separate brains
are separated by mid-cranial lateral bone (anterior and posterior
brain). There is no apparent connection between the two (could
one be an ‘individual’ brain while the other works as a
‘collective consciousness’ brain? – Branton). Some autopsies
have revealed a crystalline network which is thought to have a
function in telepathic (and other) functions which help to
maintain the group consciousness between members of the same
species. Functions of group consciousness in this species does
have a disadvantage in that decisions in this species comes
rather slowly as the matter at hand filters through the group
awareness of those who must make the decision…”

In relation to the above description of ‘implant’ devices,
we will now quote from another short account which appeared in
the N.A.R. (now L.E.R.) documents:
“…According to one source, Stan Friedman was either
involved with or knew of the extraction of two spherical implants
from two cadavers. The implants were examined and opened.
Inside there were crystalline structures which were then examined
under an electron microscope. Inside the crystalline structure
were micro-miniature electronic circuits.”
Friedman has according to some researchers held the same
views as Jamie Shandera and William Moore, i.e., that the ‘Greys’
are actually ‘benevolent’ and the animal mutilations, abductions,
underground bases and similar scenarios do not exist. Since
these men have allegedly been tied-in with the CIA, which in turn
is–according to many sources–now partially or mostly under the
control of the alien-grey powers, such statements against the
facts would be in keeping with an organization that has been
infiltrated via implantation, etc., by malevolent alien forces.
Some suspect that Moore is either working for or being misled by
certain members of MJ-12 to spread disinformation, while at the
same time still admit the existence of UFOs and ‘Greys’ which is
now becoming impossible to refute, and also deny the malevolent
aspects. This suggests that in spite of the obvious predatory
nature of the saurian greys, certain branches of the CIA are
still abiding by the dubious ‘treaties’ which call for a U.S.
government’s denial of the abductions, implantations,
mutilations, and so on. NAR in it’s May, 1989 issue, referred to
yet another man who many believe is a blatantly deceiving
disinformation agent:

“Philip Klass, self-confessed UFO expert, gave his rendition
of what UFOs really are on March 31 and April 1, 1989 at the
Spring Valley Library in LAS VEGAS. Arthur C. Clarke, science
fiction author, called Klass’s recent book ‘UFO ABDUCTIONS: A
DANGEROUS GAME’, a ‘welcome breath of sanity in a field where
it’s sadly lacking.’ Unfortunately for both Mr. Clarke and Mr.
Klass, the sad fact is that the abduction process is neither a
game nor has any degree of perceptible sanity. Many doubt Klass,
a former writer assigned to AVIATION WEEK AND SPACE TECHNOLOGY
has any conception about what the abductions really involve.
Many view Mr. Klass in the same category as William Moore, who
many believe to be employed by the Defense Investigative Service.
Moore has, over the past year, been involved in diverting
attention away from real issues towards MJ-12 documents and other
literary busywork, while thousands of abductees struggle to
discover their true involvement in ‘alien’ activities.”

The following article, titled ‘ALIENS ON EARTH’, was written
by the Rev. Anthony G. Pike, a United Kingdom correspondent for
NICUFO. This article appeared in the Fall, 1991 issue of ‘UFO
“…I have recently received inside information from a
British Government source who states that Britain is the World
Headquarters for the storage of alien bodies. At present, there
are about 300 alien bodies stored in various parts of Britain; of
which, about 25 are in suspended animation. Throughout the rest
of the world, however, there are only about 60 bodies – including
the USA! I then enquired as to the reason why so many bodies
were stored in Britain rather than the USA. The answer was that
‘Britain can keep a better secret’. You see, Britain has
probably more secrets stored away than any other nation on earth,
& has numerous laws preventing people from gaining access to
those secrets or publishing them through the media. This is
illustrated in the fact that Britain has no UFO magazines
available on the newsstands. However, a few years back Tim Green
Beckley attempted to put ‘UFO UNIVERSE’ out on the newsstands
here, & it lasted for just 2 issues before the Government banned
it. There are also very tight restrictions on the media –
remember, Britain has only 4 main TV stations; which makes it
easier for the Government to (control) what goes out. There is
also a branch of M15 at the BBC who prevent any classified
information from reaching the public. I was told that the famous
astronomer, Patrick Moore, was warned by M15 that if he wanted to
get on in life he better keep quiet about the alien bases he’s
seen on the moon. I was also informed that there are 1000’s of
live aliens among us on the earth; & that the aliens are divided
up into 5 groups, ie. the human-looking ones, the 12 ft. giants,
small cat-eyes (or vertical-slit pupiled reptilian-eyed beings
such as the saurian greys – Branton), wiry aliens & gnome-type
aliens. Many of the aliens, however, are living in vast
underground bases… Some of the more evil types, such as the
‘Greys’ are also working hand in glove with the US Government on
advanced genetics & mind control. This Secret Government is
seeking to control & manipulate the human race for its own end
(could this U.S. “secret government” cooperation with the British
Empire be tied-in with the allegations made by certain
researchers that the 22 “Palladium” Masonic Lodges in charge of
Illuminati world revolution originally were spawned from the
Grand Lodge of England? Actually A-ALBIONIC RESEARCH., Box
20273., Ferdale, MI 48220., presents much evidence that the
Grand Masonic Lodge of London and the Grand Jesuit Lodge of Rome
have conspired together for centuries through the ‘Illuminati’ to
take over the nations of the earth and acclimate them into a ‘New
World Order’, including and especially the Christian Republic of
America, since it’s birth. – Branton)… I was also informed that
our galaxy is governed by a group of beings who one might call an
‘Angelis Command Corps.’ (fallen or unfallen ‘angelics’? –
Branton) In this sector they generally meet in the Pleiades &
Sirius. My Government source also says that he has personally
seen about 50 alien bodies stored in the UK; & that he was taken
in a blacked out helicopter somewhere ‘up North’ to a laboratory
run by the British Security Forces where he saw a set of 3
transparent coffins containing 3 giant aliens about 10-12 ft.
tall (could these be the human El-Anakim who are believed to have
bases deep below the western U.S., Alaska and Mexico, etc.? –
Branton). However, the coffins are impregnable & the Government
has been unable to break them open. I was also told that 13 sets
of similar coffins have been discovered in different parts of the
world. Also, the TIMES newspaper last year ran a couple of
articles reproduced from Pravda stating that giant aliens have
landed in SEVERAL locations in Estonia, Lithuania, & Hungary. In
Hungary a whole regiment actually converged with the aliens face
to face. Timothy Good, the British UFO researcher, has been
given three letters from the U.S. Government stating that in
August 1992, the US government is planning to put UFOs & alien
bodies on a show to the public in the COSMIC JOURNEY EXHIBITION.
I was also told that the calamities that are taking place are for
the good of the planet and are causing people to think about
alternatives to the present system… I was told that this
collapse of the old order will include a collapse of the PRESENT
MONETARY SYSTEM (a prelude to a ‘New World Order’ inspired by the
reptilian greys? – Branton), the IMF & the WORLD BANK. The space
people themselves, say they have no frontiers, no passports, & no
money. I was also told that the atomic bomb will be phased out;
& that present day transportation & energy will be replaced by
the LINEAR MOTOR & ELECTRO-MAGNETISM. I was also told that there
is a revolutionary new fuel which has been supplied by the aliens
to someone in South America who is now running his car on it. I
also know that it is possible to run cars on ordinary tap water
(there’s someone in Australia doing it right now) & that all
diseases can be cured with simple H2O2 (water with an extra
oxygen molecule on it) including AIDS, cancer, colds & tooth
decay (H2O2 is excellent for brushing teeth – it removes all
plaque & decay instantly)… – further information on any of the
above matters & much more can be obtained by writing to Rev.
Anthony G. Pike., 141 Austen Road., South Harrow HA2 OUU Middex,

The following list of ‘entity types’ seems to correspond
partially with the list given in the above letter. This list of
‘aliens’ comes from the anonymous Intelligence worker ‘Commander
X’, as he received them from John Lear and other ‘inside’
“THREE TYPES OF EBE’S (GRAYS): GRAY-1 – 3 1/2 feet tall.
Large head. Large slanted eyes. Worship technology. Don’t give
a damn about mankind. GRAY-2 – Same type, different finger
arrangement, slightly different face. More sophisticated than
Gray-1… May not need secretions (large-nosed or large-muzzled
grays? – Branton). GRAYS: Same basic type. Lips thinner. More
subservient to other two grays.
“BLONDES, SWEDES, NORDICS: Known by any of these monikers.
Similar to humans (although it is unknown as to whether they are
related to any of the nationalities mentioned). Blond hair, blue
eyes. Will not break (so-called) ‘universal law’ of ‘non-
interference’ to help us…
“INTER-DIMENSIONAL: Entity that can assume various shapes…
(most likely fallen angelic. These often apparently utilize
androidal forms, temporary energy forms, forms constructed from
restructured physical matter, or even physical ‘shells’
constructed in forms similar to grays, humans or other
configurations – Branton)
“HAIRY DWARF’S: Four feet tall, 35 lbs. Extremely strong.
Hairy (possibly a degenerate branch of humanoid Sasquatch –
“VERY TALL RACE: Look like humans but seven or eight feet
tall. United with Blondes.
…Child-like mentality.
“MIB’S: (Men In Black). Wear all black. Sunglasses. Very
pale skin. Do nor conform to normal accepted patterns; Extremely
sensitive to light…”

Commander X also related the following concerning the
‘Inter-Dimensionals’ who have obtained physical forms allowing
them to operate in the physical world:
“…What the government didn’t realize was that they (the
Grays) planned to abduct tens of thousands of individuals, plant
monitoring devices in their brains, and program them with
specific series’ of responses to direct commands.
“The EBEs–also behind our backs–began to mutilate cows and
other animals because they wished to use their tissues TO CREATE
government realized what the EBEs had in mind, and wanted to back
out of their agreement, THE ‘ALIENS’ TOOK OVER SEVERAL

Again, in reference to the ‘serpent races’, John A. Keel, in
his book ‘OUR HAUNTED PLANET’ (1968. Fawcett Publications.,
Greenwich, Conn.) has stated:
“…The parahuman Serpent People of the past are still among
us. They were probably worshipped by the builders of Stonehenge
and the forgotten ridge-making cultures of South America.
“…In some parts of the world the Serpent People
successfully posed as gods and imitated the techniques of the
superintelligence. This led to the formation of pagan religions
centered around human sacrifices. The conflict, so far as man
himself was concerned, became one of religions and races. Whole
civilizations based upon the worship of these false gods rose and
fell in Asia, Africa, and South America. The battleground had
been chosen, and the mode of conflict had been decided upon.
“The human race would supply the pawns. The mode of control
was complicated as usual. Human beings were largely free of
direct control. Each individual HAD TO CONSCIOUSLY COMMIT
“The main battle was for what was to become known as the
human soul.
“Once an individual had committed himself, he opened a door
so that an indefinable something could actually enter his body
and exercise some control over his subconscious mind (this would
be either the pure Spirit of Christ or the corrupting spirit of
anti-Christ. Just as nature hates a vacuum, so does the human
spirit. In other words, what Keel is saying is that the human
spirit cannot work entirely of it’s own, but is a channel or a
vessel of ‘other’ powers, whether good or evil. The act of ‘free
will’ which is given to man is a ‘choice’ over which of these
powers to submit to, and to accept personal responsibility for
that choice – Branton).
“…the Serpent People or Omega Group, attacked man in
various ways, trying to rid the planet of him. But the
superintelligence was still able to look over man… God worked
out new ways of communication and control, always in conflict
with the Serpent People.”

One of the classic examples of combined interaction between
the physical Serpent Race and the other-dimensional ‘Infernals’
in a common cause is given in the case of Brian Scott. According
to Commander X, the area where Scott was abducted within the
Superstition mountains of Arizona contains an underground base
where, he alleged, at least five individuals had been abducted
(to the underground base) that he is aware of, Brian Scott being
one of them. The Superstition mountains are notorious for the
many bizarre deaths and be-headings that have taken place there.
Many have alleged that in certain parts of this wasteland a
sudden force or irrational impulse can come over a person and
cause them to suddenly turn against others in their party. There
have been several cases where strange ‘voices’ have driven
treasure-hunters insane and, in some cases, driven them to kill
their partners. Even though the following account does not
specifically mention the underground base described by Commander
X, other sources who have talked to Mr. Scott do suggest that an
underground installation was involved. Brad Steiger, in his book
‘THE UFO ABDUCTORS’ (1988., Berkley Books., N.Y.) describes Brian
Scott’s experiences as follows:
“…Scott’s first abduction reportedly occurred in the
Arizona desert near Phoenix in 1971, and he claimed that another
had just occurred on December 22, 1975, in Garden Grove,
California. In between, Scott said, there were three other
terrifying sessions with the aliens and repeated visits to his
home by balls of light and a transparent being that called itself
the Host.
“Incredibly, Scott found that a friend of his was already
inside the craft. The two of them were taken into a small room
that began to fill with a fog or a mist. Then they were
confronted by four or five ‘very horrifying’ creatures. Scott
described them as having gray skin like that of a crocodile or a
rhino, with a thicker patch of hide over the front torso… The
beings were seven feet tall, according to Scott, and… had three
fingers and a thumb kicked over to one side.”

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Steiger then records a conversation between Scott and
researcher Timothy Green Beckley:
“TIM BECKLEY: What happened on the day when your wife was
sent to the hospital?
“SCOTT: She had been to work, pretty much handling
everything that was going on around her. Then I got a call that
she wasn’t feeling very well. I brought her home, and after
about fifteen minutes of sitting there talking with her, she was
saying several things, none of which made any sense to me or to
her. She said that she had been in the bathroom and suddenly
felt hands all over her body. It was as if someone had broken
into the house and molested her. When she calmed down and
started making explanations to me about what the hell was wrong
with her, it was as if, from her description, the guys I had seen
aboard the craft in 1971 had visiter her. This is odd, because
she has never even seen any sketches that I made of those
“BECKLEY: So this was an actual materialization–if you want
to call it that–of the entities in the house?
“SCOTT: I don’t know what is was.
“BECKLEY: But she was so upset that you decided to take her
to the hospital?
“SCOTT: Later that evening, it seemed as if she was okay. I
was on the phone, and the baby was getting into everything so I
couldn’t carry on the conversation. I got up and went looking
for my wife. I heard a bumping sound and a moan coming from the
bathroom. My wife was on the floor, hyperventilating. I got her
up and onto a chair in the living room. I was on my way to call
her mother when she just fell flat on her face. I called the
paramedics, and while they were on the way, she got up and fell
down again. Then she began to become hysterical. It took four
paramedics to hold her down. She was throwing people around as
if they were tissue paper. Guys were thrown backward against the
furniture. Finally they loaded her up in the ambulance. I came
back in the house, and the baby was not in the playpen. I
panicked, because I couldn’t find our one-year-old baby who got
out of a playpen!”
Steiger continued: “Tim Beckley asked Scott about the Host.
‘There is one entity that comes through that calls itself the
Host, whatever that means,’ Scott attempted to explain. ‘It
speaks in what sounds like some kind of computerized language.
The voice seems to come out of me, an inner voice that is not
mine. The entity says that I am one with it. It says, “I am; I
am” or “You are one with me.” When asked if it has a name, it
will just come back and say, “I am; I am.” (Note: According to
Judeo-Christian teaching, as we read in the events surrounding
Moses’ ascent of Mt. Sinai, Almighty God alone can honestly
profess that ‘I Am that I Am’, which in the original Hebrew means
that He alone is self-existence and not dependent on an outside
force, as all other created beings are, and therefore is ‘God’.
The events of molestation which took place against Scott’s wife
would indicate that ‘the Host’ IS NOT God, and therefore, as is
the nature of the Infernals and the Serpent Races, it
irreverently seems to blaspheme Almighty God with such statements
as ‘I AM’ – Branton)
“‘The other night we heard some strange sounds coming from
the bedroom. I began to speak in a foreign language that we
later found out was Greek. Where that came from, I don’t know.
I wrote in Greek BACKWARD. On top of that, I was writing with my
left hand, and I am right-handed.
“‘This voice was talking. We asked who it was, and the name
Ashtar came out.
“‘Then it began to use the name Ashtar and speak to my wife.
It told her things about her past that only she could know. This
went on for a while, then it went on to say it would give her all
the money in the world. It only wanted one thing in return–her
“Beckley pointed out,” Steiger continues “that is sounded as
though diabolical entities might be coming onto the scene,
attracted by the extreme vibrations. He also observed that
ASHTAR sounded very much like ISHTAR, an ancient Babylonian
goddess (Note: Ashtar-oth was also the legendary ‘consort’ to
BAAL, the ancient Chaldean ‘god’ two whom the ancients offered up
human sacrifices – Branton).
“…Beckley asked J.D. (an investigator associated with a
civilian UFO investigations group who studied the Brian Scott
incident) how he would differentiate between what may have
originally been an abduction case and the various types of
poltergeistic phenomena that now seemed to prompt Scott’s
resultant trance state. Are they one and the same? Are they
closely related mysteries? Or are they entirely different
aspects of a more general phenomenon?
“J.D. indicated that he was aware that there had been other
cases such as Scott’s. The manifestations of balls of light
streaking through the homes of contactees and abductees
apparently are more frequent than many investigators realize.
“J.D. mentioned that one voice, a horrible voice, came
through and claimed to be Beelzebub, the Devil. J.D. was
convinced that the entity was simply trying to frighten away the
investigators.” (we wonder – Branton)
Aside from the 3-fingered, 7 ft. tall ‘Crocodilian’
creatures encountered by Brian Scott, there was another group
involved in his abductions as well. According to Steiger:
“…The secondary group was composed of beings who were
small, with frail bodies, milky white skin, large bald heads,
thin lips, and enormous eyes… supposedly this group, perhaps
from the sixth or seventh planets around the star EPSILON BOOTES,
placed a satellite in orbit around our moon… the taller…
entities from ‘time beyond all time,’ have the power to veto
actions planned by those beings of the secondary world…”
In reference to the supposed ‘mission’ these creatures had
chosen Brian Scott for, Steiger states:
“…Scott was to design a transportation technology that
would move matter through space. He was to master quantum
displacement physics and begin to develop a mind transference
machine TO BE USED TO UNITE ALL HUMANS. Such a machine would
help to develop a philosophy of cosmic brotherhood (as well as
kill all personality, individuality and privacy among humans –
Branton). The above tasks, of course, would seem impossible for
a combination of Einstein and Superman, but they are typical of
the type of grandiose mission(s) assigned to so many contactees
and abductees.”
“…The Master Ashtar appears in much of UFO contactee
literature. One cannot help noting the ancient origin of the
name Ishtar, Ashtar, Asta, described always as a god of evil and
negativity in the Bible… Ashtar seems to belong more to the
contactees than the abductees, but there are instances where
those who claim to have been forcefully taken aboard UFOs
describe an interaction with beings who represent themselves as
emissaries of ‘Ashtar’s Grand Plan.'”

Brian Scott seems to have encountered the same ‘Lizard’ like
or ‘Crocodilian’ sauroids describes by others, the gan-greenish
coloured creatures who are often described as being nearly 7 ft.
tall, with reptilian features, and who are believed by many to be
the overlords of the large-nosed and common ‘Greys’, being second
only in hierarchy to the pterodactylin ‘Mothmen’ and of course
the ‘infernals’ themselves, of which the so-called ‘Host’ seemed
to have been a part. Following are still other documented
encounters with different branches of this apparently hominoid-
saurian race:

Arkady Leokum, writing in a nationally syndicated news
article called ‘TELL ME WHY’, revealed some important facts about
the ancient Saurians. His article, titled: ‘DINOSAURS DEVELOPED
FROM REPTILES’, stated the following:
“…Since dinosaurs were reptiles, they must have developed
from reptiles that lived before them.
“The first dinosaurs to develop resembled their reptile
ancestors, who were like lizards, AND WHO COULD WALK ON THEIR
HIND LEGS. Some kinds remained small, but others grew heavier
and longer.
“In time, many of them were 6 to 8 feet long. There was
even a few 20 feet long and weighing as much as an elephant.
They had small heads and short, blunt teeth, which were only good
for eating plants. They lived in low, swampy places.
“Then came the next period, the Age of Reptiles. Some of
the plant-eating dinosaurs became so large that even four legs
couldn’t support them on land. They had to spend most of their
lives in rivers and swamps. One of these giants was the
brontosaurus, 70 to 80 feet long and weighing about 38 tons!
“At the same time, other dinosaurs were able to walk about
on land. One of these, allosaurus, was 34 feet long, had sharp
teeth and claws, and fed on brontosaurus and other plant eaters.
“So, dinosaurs were a stage in the development of the

This article strongly suggests that the dinosaurs and other
reptiles (including amphibians?) were/are an extremely adaptable
race, capable of mutating to an incredible degree to “fit in” to
whatever environment these creatures found themselves in. Also,
the fact that some “dinosaurs” became sea-going beasts suggest
that ALL (both reptilians and amphibians) may have originated
from a single group of 6-8 ft. long bi-ped lizards which roamed
the earth in ancient times.
There are indications that the original ‘Nachash’ or
‘Serpent’ of Hebrew tradition and history possessed both
reptilian, draconian as well as amphibian features, and was in
fact a hominoid creature. Even today, reptilians and amphibians
possess similar characteristics: scales, claws, webbed
appendages, etc. Scientists tell us that snakes, pleseosaurs
(such as allegedly dwells in Loch Ness in Scotland, former home
of the satanist Aliester Crowley who expressed his own
fascination with the ‘beast’ of the Loch) and other aquatic or
semi-aquatic reptiles–and amphibians–once possessed lizard-
saurian like limbs before taking up an aquatic or semi-aquatic
existence, after which the limbs became atrophied. This may
explain why AMPHIBIANS of hominoid form have, like their
reptilian counterparts, been seen on occasion, and have even
caused serious physical injury, unprovoked, to witnesses on the
The following accounts, which appear in ‘CURIOUS
ENCOUNTERS’, by Loren Coleman (Faber & Faber., Boston, Mass.
1985) pp. 70-76, describe encounters with reptilian and/or
amphibian hominoid or bi-ped creatures of a semi-aquatic nature.
We might conclude, based on the above, that the following
accounts may involve yet another branch or branches of the
“Serpent Race” which, although extremely adaptable like a
mutating virus, nevertheless may have had a common root in the
upright-walking lizards that preceded the dinosaurs thousands of
years ago. The author’s reference to “Bigfoot”, at least in
these cases, refer to the reptilian-amphibian hominoids that have
been observed, and should not be associated with the “hairy
giants” or humanoids who, unlike the creatures described here,
are apparently part of the human family. Loren Coleman describes
some encounters with these non-human beasts which have taken
place near the west coast:

“One classic Bigfoot story, (discussed in some detail in
MYSTERIOUS AMERICA) namely, the Wetzel/Riverside, California
sighting on 8 November 1958, CLEARLY FITS THE REPTILIAN MODE
better than the anthropoid one. Wetzel described, as you may
recall, the fluorescent-eyed ‘thing’ as having a protuberant
mouth and a body COVERED WITH SCALES, looking like leaves.
Wetzel’s ‘thing’ emerged from the Santa Ana River underbrush.
“The connection to water is a strong theme in all of these
accounts so it is not so surprising that the next puzzle comes
from the lake monster file. Trekking up the West Coast, the
following report concerns a monster that actually looks like it
stepped out of the wardrobe room of the Black Lagoon movie.
“Thetis Lake is near Cottonwood, British Columbia, not far
from Victoria, Cadboro Bay, off Victoria and Vancouver Island,
(and) is well known for the perennial sea monster
‘Cadborosaurus.’ So understandably a new creature in the
neighborhood would be grouped under the same type of facade by
the press. But the Thetis monster appears to be something else
“On 19 August 1972 Gordon Pike and Robin Flewellyn said a
five-foot-tall animal appeared on the surface of Thetis Lake AND
CHASED THEM FROM THE BEACH. Flewellyn was CUT on the hand by six
razor-sharp points atop the monster’s head. A Royal Canadian
Mounted Police officer was quoted at the time as saying: ‘The
boys seem sincere, and until we determine otherwise we have no
alternative but to continue our investigation.’
“The next Wednesday afternoon, 23 August, the Thetis Monster
was encountered again. Mike Gold and Russell Van Nice said they
saw ‘it’ around 3:30 P.M. and on the other side of the lake away
from the recreation area of its first appearance. Mike Gold
noted: ‘It came out of the water and looked around. Then it went
back into the water. Then we ran!’ He described the creature as
‘shaped like an ordinary body, like a human being body but it had
a monster face, and it was all scaly (with) a point sticking out
of its head (and) great big ears.’ It was silver.
“The Thetis monster account sounds similar to one from
Saginaw, Michigan, occurring in 1937. A man-like monster climbed
up a river bank, leaned against a tree, and then returned to the
river. The fisherman who witnessed this appearance suffered a
nervous breakdown. This Saginaw tale, the reports of clawed and
three-toed prints from Wisconsin to Missouri, and other
supposedly ‘Bigfoot’ or ‘manimal’ encounters perhaps should be
reexamined in light of the REPTILIAN creatures from the Black
“The big Deltox Swamp, Wisconsin flap, investigated by Ivan
T. Sanderson in 1979, for example, has always been shelved with
Bigfoot reports. But what is to be made of the tracks of the
creature, like footprints of ‘a good-sized man with swim fins.’
“This trait is a more frequent characteristic in the so-
called eastern Bigfoot reports than you might realize. For
example, there’s the case of the creature of Charles Mill Lake in
Mansfield, Ohio. A green-eyed, seven-foot-tall, seemingly
armless humanoid, seen late in March 1959 by Michael Lane, Wayne
Armstrong, and Dennis Patterson, came out of the lake and left
behind ‘tracks that resembled the footgear worn by skin divers.’
The thing was seen again in 1963 and described as ‘luminous and
green-eyed.’ I examined the site of these encounters and can
testify to the Charles Mill Lake’s swampy affinities–certainly a
good home for a Black Lagoon beast…
“In 1973, during the summer, residents of New Jersey’s
Newton-Lafayette area described A GIANT, MAN-LIKE ALLIGATOR they
had seen locally. Newspaper reporters wrote about an old Indian
tale from the region that told of a giant, man-sized fish that
could never be caught. In 1977, New York State Conservation
Naturalist Alfred Hulstruck reported that the state’s Southern
Tier had ‘a scaled, man-like creature (that) appears at dusk from
the red, algae-ridden waters to forage among the fern and moss-
covered uplands.’
“The New York-New Jersey record, however, cannot compare
with the overwhelming series of narratives issuing from one place
in the United States, the Ohio River Valley.
“Over twenty years ago, by digging into the back issues of
the Louisville, Kentucky, COURIER-JOURNAL, I discovered one of
those gems that has kept me pondering its meaning for two
decades. The interesting little item was in the 24 October 1878
issue. A ‘WIld Man of the Woods’ was captured, supposedly, in
Tennessee, and then placed on exhibit in Louisville. The
creature was described as being six feet, five inches tall, and
having eyes twice the normal size. His body was ‘COVERED WITH
SCALES.’ This article now makes some sense.
“And then almost a hundred years later, again near
Louisville, there are more stories of REPTILIAN ENTITIES. In
October 1975, near Milton, Kentucky, Clarence Cable reported a
‘giant lizard’ was roaming the forests near his junkyard. Author
Peter Guttilla described the creature Cable surprised as ‘about
fifteen feet long, had a foot-long forked tongue, and big eyes
that bulged something like a frog’s. It was dull-white with
black-and-white stripes across its body with quarter-size
speckles over it.’
“On-site field investigations by Mark A. Hall, however,
indicated this ‘giant lizard’ RAN BIPEDALLY, according to OTHER
Trimble County, Kentucky witnesses. The Ohio River is
Louisville’s, Milton’s, and Trimble county’s northern boundary.
“On 21 August 1955, near Evansville, Indiana, Mrs. Darwin
Johnson was almost pulled forever into the depths of the Ohio
River. In what seems to be a very close meeting with one of
those creatures, Mrs. Johnson, of Godtown, Indiana, was swimming
with her friend Mrs. Chris Lamble about fifteen feet from the
It felt like the ‘hand’ had huge claws and ‘furry’ (or scaly?)
palms. It came up from behind, grabbed her left leg, grabbed her
knee, and pulled her under. She kicked and fought herself free.
It pulled her under again. Although both women could not see the
thing, they were screaming and yelling to scare it away.
Finally, Mrs. Johnson lunged for Mrs. Lamble’s inner tube, and
the loud ‘thump’ apparently scared ‘it’ away, and ‘it’ released
its grip. Back on shore, Mrs. Johnson received treatment for her
scratches and marks on her leg.
“Fortean investigator Terry Colvin passed on the information
that Mrs. Johnson had a palm-print-shaped green stain below her
knee that could not be removed, and it remained for several days.
(Interestingly, Colvin learned the Johnsons were visited by an
individual who identified himself as an Air Force colonel who
took voluminous notes and warned them not to talk further about
the incident. Of course, this sounds so similar to the ‘Man-In-
Black’ encounter that is goes almost without saying.)
“For anyone who has seen CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON, the
Ohio River encounter of Mrs. Darwin Johnson is already familiar,
for her attack was foreshadowed in that movie…
“1972… In March of that year on two separate occasions,
two Ohio policemen saw what has become known as the ‘Loveland
Frogman.’ Investigated by Ron Schaffner and Richard Mackey,
these researchers interviewed the officers involved but have not
published their names, instead using the fictitious names
‘Williams’ and ‘Johnson.’
“The first incident took place at 1:00 A.M. on 3 March 1972,
on a clear, cold night. Officer Williams was on route to
Loveland, via Riverside Road, when he thought he saw a dog beside
the road. But when the ‘thing’ stood up, its eyes illuminated by
the car lights, looked at him for an instant, turned, and leapt
over the guardrail. Williams saw it go down an embankment into
the Little Miami River, a mere fifteen or so miles from the Ohio
River. He described the thing as weighing about sixty pounds,
about three to four feet tall, having a textured leathery skin,
AND A FACE LIKE A FROG OR LIZARD. Williams went on to the police
station and returned with Officer Johnson to look for evidence of
the creature. They turned up scrape-marks leading down the side
of the small hill near the river.
“On approximately 17 March 1972, Officer Johnson was driving
outside of Loveland when he had a similar experience. Seeing an
animal lying in the middle of the road, he stopped to remove what
he thought was a dead critter. Instead, when the officer opened
his squeaky car door, the animal got up into a crouched position
like a football player. The creature hobbled to the guardrail
and lifted its leg over, while constantly looking at Johnson.
Perhaps it was the funny smirk on its face, but Johnson decided
to shoot at it. He missed, he figured, since the thing didn’t
slow down. Johnson later told how he felt it was more upright
than the way Williams described it. One area farmer told
investigators he saw a large, FROG-LIKE OR LIZARD-LIKE CREATURE
during the same month of the officers’ sightings…”

In the March 13, 1990 issue of the SUN, writer Lou Tarragon
alleged the following in his article ‘UFO UNDERGROUND CITY FOUND
“A team of archaeologists probing ancient ruins in Brazil
have discovered an underground city that was inhabited by aliens
6,000 year ago! The shocking discovery was made by Dr. Jorge
Tejero and his team of 20 college students who were searching for
ancient artifacts in the mountains near Sao Paulo.
“One of the students unknowingly came upon the underground
city when he stumbled down a steep 20-foot incline deep inside
the damp and dark caves. Tejero and his students all descended
the incline, into a large chamber filled with pottery, jewels and
four-foot skeletons.
“‘I thought we had found the ruins of an ancient
civilization,’ says Tejero, ‘until I realized that the skeletons
protruding from their heads. THEIR SKULLS WERE VERY LARGE, and
their eyes were set closer together than humans.’
“Startled by their unusual findings, the team probed further
into the cave and discovered translator-like devices and
communications equipment.
“‘There is no doubt we’ve discovered an advanced alien
civilization that thrived in ancient South America,’ says
professor Tejero. Tests on the structures and materials inside
the cave show they could have been living here 6,000 years ago!
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Charles Berlitz, in his ‘WORLD OF THE INCREDIBLE BUT TRUE’
(Fawcett Crest Books., N.Y.), related the following incident
concerning another hominoid predator or ‘Lizard Man’:
“There have been numerous Bigfoot sightings in the United
States and around the world. The humanlike creatures are usually
said to be large and hairy with glowing eyes. During the summer
of 1988, however, residents of Bishopville, South Carolina,
reported accounts of a rare breed of Bigfoot: A SEVEN-FOOT-TALL
LIZARD MAN WITH GREEN SCALY SKIN. According to witnesses, unlike
other Bigfoot creatures Lizard Man has only three toes on each
foot, as well as long apelike arms that end in three fingers
tipped with FOUR-INCH CLAWS. Only the second Bigfoot to have
only three fingers on each hand, and the first (discovered by
Berlitz – Branton) to also have three toes on each foot. Lizard
Man is the most unusual Bigfoot ever reported.
“Seventeen-year-old Chris Davis first encountered Lizard Man
around 2:00 A.S. on June 29. On his way home, the teen stopped
near the brackish waters of Scape Ore Swamp outside Bishopville
to change a flat tire. While replacing the jack in the car’s
trunk, he glimpsed something running across the field toward him.
Jumping into his 1976 Toyota Celica, he was quickly engaged in a
tug-of-war with the reptilian creature as he tried to pull the
door closed. Then Lizard Man jumped onto the car’s roof, where
he left scratches in the paint as evidence of his attack.
“Hysterical, Davis returned home and told only his parents
and a few close friends about the experience. Law enforcement
officers, however, interrogated him after neighbors said the boy
might know something about the strange bite marks and scratches
found on another car.
“Davis wasn’t alone in his report. Soon other reports were
flooding the sheriff’s office. Teenagers Rodney Nolfe and Shane
Stokes, for example, were driving near the swamp with their
girlfriends when Lizard Man darted across the road in front of
their car. Construction worker George Holloman also claimed
Lizard Man jumped at him as he was collecting water from an
artesian well.
“Investigating the area around the swamp, state trooper Mike
Hodge and Lee County deputy sheriff Wayne Atkinson found three
crumbled, forty-gallon cardboard drums. The tops of saplings
were ripped off eight feet above the ground. And there were,
according to Hodge, ‘humongous footprints,’ fourteen-by-seven-
inch impressions in hard red clay. Following the tracks for four
hundred yards, the officers backtracked and found new prints
impressed in their car’s tire tracks. According to state
wildlife biologists, the footprints matched no known animal
species.” (This “Lizard Man” sighting was covered in one of the
episodes of Tim White’s “SIGHTINGS” documentary, “MONSTERS”
segment, on the Fox Network – Branton).

A letter from researcher Jason Bishop to another researcher
stated the following concerning some ‘Reptoid’ encounters he had
“…The others who have contact with the Reptoids are very
secretive and work with me, very close. They have photos of
marks on their bodies after abductions (which are on-going). 3
of them are in one family and now they (Reptoids) even recently
abducted the new baby TOO!
“Since two of these people have also had M.I.B. experiences,
where they entered the house ‘THROUGH’ a locked door, and the
other (has) contacts with government agents… I must be true to
my promise NOT to make public info related to their experiences.
But one of these people (had been) documenting the reptoid events
of this family and OTHERS ON THEIR BLOCK and I’m trying to get
them to publish this under another name and have other people
handle the sales of the booklet. Will keep you posted.
“One of the experiences, involved 3 people and a cave (in
Black Mountain, between Las Vegas, Nevada and Kingman,
Arizona)… Another was at a dam, while a group was camping in
Nevada. More recent (this year, near L.A., California) are
Reptoids materializing in two peoples homes (glowing green) and
are VERY similar to my experiences in 1979!”

What may well have been the most notorious of all “scares”
involving reptilian beings, involved a combined “invasion” of
pterodactylin-hominoid “Mothmen” and “Men In Black”. These
creatures have been referred to as Mothmen, Winged Dracos, and
Winged Serpents, depending on the source involved. They
reportedly terrorized a particular area in West Virginia,
according to John A. Keel, in the mid-1960’s. Keel is convinced
that these malevolent entities were involved in the tragic
“silver bridge” disaster in which several UFO witnesses perished,
based on certain strange circumstances surrounding the event. In
his book ‘THE MOTHMEN PROPHECIES’ (Signet Books., N.Y.) Keel
reveals the following:

“The moment I met Mrs. Hyre’s niece Connie Carpenter in
1966, I knew she was telling the truth because her eyes were
reddened, watery, and almost swollen shut. I had seen these
symptoms many times in my treks around the country investigating
UFO reports. Witnesses who were unlucky enough to have a close
encounter with an unidentified flying object, usually a
dazzlingly brilliant aerial light, are exposed to actinic
rays…ultraviolet rays…which can cause ‘eyeburn,’ medically
known as KLIEG CONJUNCTIVITIS. These are the same kind of rays
that tan your hide at the beach. If you lie in the bright sun
without protecting your eyes you can get conjunctivitis.
Whatever they are, UFOs radiate intense actinic rays. There are
now thousands of cases in which witnesses suffered eye-burns and
temporary eye damage…even temporary blindness..after viewing a
strange flying light in the night sky.
“…What puzzled me about Connie’s case, however, was that
she had not seen a splendid luminous flying saucer. She had seen
a giant ‘winged man’ in broad daylight.
“According to her story, Connie, a shy, sensitive eighteen-
year-old, was driving home from church at 10:30 A.M. on Sunday,
November 27, 1966, when, as she passed the deserted greens of
Mason County Golf Course outside New Haven, West Virginia, she
suddenly saw a huge gray figure. It was shaped like a man, she
said, but much larger. It was at least SEVEN FEET TALL and very
broad. The thing that attracted her attention was not its size
“‘It’s a wonder I didn’t run off the road and have a wreck,’
she commented later.
“As she slowed, her eyes fixed on the apparition, a pair of
wings unfolded from its back. They seemed to have a span of
about ten feet. It was definitely not an ordinary bird but a
MAN-SHAPED THING which rose slowly off the ground, straight up
like a helicopter, silently. Its wings did not flap in flight.
It headed straight toward Connie’s car, its horrible eyes fixed
to her face, then it swooped low over her head as she shoved the
accelerator to the floor-boards in utter hysteria.
“Connie’s conjunctivitis lasted over two weeks, apparently
caused by those glowing red eyes. At the time of my first visit
to Point Pleasant in 1966 I did not relate the winged weirdo to
flying saucers. Later events not only proved that a relationship
existed, but that relationship also is a vital clue to the whole
“Max’s Kansas City is a famous watering hole for New York’s
hip crowd. In the summer of 1967 an oddball character wandered
into that restaurant noted for its oddball clientele. He was
tall and awkward, dressed in an ill-fitting black suit that
seemed out of style. His chin came to a sharp point and his eyes
bulged slightly like ‘thyroid eyes.’ He sat down in a booth and
gestured to the waitress with his long, tapering fingers.
“‘Something to eat,’ he mumbled. The waitress handed him a
menu. He stared at it uncomprehendingly, apparently unable to
read. ‘Food,’ he said almost pleadingly.
“‘How about a steak?’ she offered.
“She brought him a steak with all the trimmings. He stared
at it for a long moment and then picked up his knife and fork,
glancing around at the other diners. It was obvious he did not
know how to handle the implements! The waitress watched him as
he fumbled helplessly. Finally she showed him how to cut the
steak and spear it with the fork. He sawed away at the meat.
Clearly he really was hungry.
“‘Where are you from?’ she asked gently.
“‘Not from here.’
“‘Another world.’
“Boy, another put-on artist, she thought to herself. The
other waitresses gathered in a corner and watched him as he
fumbled with his food, a stranger in a strange land.
“A large white car with a faulty muffler wheezed and rattled
up the back street in New Haven, West Virginia, where Connie
Carpenter lived, and Jack Brown knocked at her door.
“‘I’m a–a friend of Mary Hyre’s.’
“His strange demeanor and disjointed questions distressed
her and disturbed her husband, Keith, and her brother Larry. It
quickly became obvious that he was not particularly interested in
Connie’s sighting of the man-bird the year before. He seemed
more concerned with Mrs. Hyre and my own relationship with her
(we were professional friends, nothing more).
“‘What do you think–if–what would Mary Hyre do–if someone
told her to stop writing about UFOs?’ he asked.
“‘She’d probably tell them to drop dead.’ Connie replied.
“Most of the questions were stupid, even unintelligible.
After a rambling conversation he drove off into the night in his
noisy car. Connie called her aunt immediately, puzzled and upset
by the visit. He was such a very odd man, she noted, and he
wouldn’t speak at all if you weren’t looking directly into his
dark, hypnotic eyes. Connie, Kieth and Larry not only noticed
his long-fingered hands, but there was also something very
peculiar about his ears. They couldn’t say exactly what. But
there was something…
“Another kind of Man in Black haunted Brooklyn, New York, in
1877-80. He had wings and performed aerial acrobatics over the
heads of the crowds of sunbathers at Coney Island. A Mr. W. H.
Smith first reported these strange flights in a letter to the NEW
YORK SUN, September 18, 1877. The creature was not a bird, but a
‘winged human(oid) form.’
“This flying ‘man’ became a local sensation and, according
to the NEW YORK TIMES, September 12, 1880, ‘many reputable
persons’ saw him as he was ‘engaged in flying toward New Jersey.’
He maneuvered at an altitude of about one thousand feet, sporting
‘BATS WINGS’ and making swimminglike movements. Witnesses
claimed to have seen his face clearly. He ‘WORE A CRUEL AND
DETERMINED EXPRESSION.’ The entire figure was black, standing
out sharply against the clear blue sky…
“North American Indians have extensive legends about the
Thunderbird, a huge bird said to carry off children and old
people. It was accompanied by loud noises, hums, buzzes and,
apparently rumbles from the infrasonic and ultrasonic levels.
Known as PIASA to the Indians of the Dakotas, it was supposed to
have terrifying red eyes and a long tail… a monstrous demon
with… bat’s wings, and a body closely in human form.
“…In May 1961, a New York pilot was buzzed by a ‘damned
big bird, bigger than an eagle. For a moment I doubted my sanity
because it looked more like a pterodactyl out of the prehistoric
past.’ The thing had swooped at his plane as he cruised up the
Hudson River valley.
“Far away, in the Ohio River valley, another startled pair
had an even more breathtaking experience. A woman prominent in
civic affairs in Point Pleasant, West Virginia, was driving on
Route 2 along the Ohio River with her elderly father. As they
passed through a sector on the edge of the park known as the
Chief Cornstalk Hunting Grounds, a tall manlike figure suddenly
appeared on the road in front of them.
“‘I slowed down,’ she told me years later, ‘and as we got
closer we could see that it was much larger than a man. A big
gray figure. It stood in the middle of the road. Then a pair of
wings unfolded from its back and they practically filled the
whole road. It almost looked like a small airplane. Then it
took off straight up…disappeared out of sight in seconds. We
were both terrified. I stepped on the gas and raced out of
“…A businessman in Arlington, Virginia, wrote to me
recently, describing an experience he and three friends had in
the winter of 1969-69. They were at a farm near Haymarket when
they heard a strange rushing sound near a small lake. Intrigued,
they set out with flashlights and a couple of dogs to
investigate. Suddenly the dogs howled, turned tail, and ran.
There, standing by a tree was a huge dark shadow between eight
and twelve feet tall. The quartet scurried back to their car,
turned on their lights, and swung toward the shadow. ‘All we
saw,’ he reported, ‘was this huge thing with large red-orange
eyeballs and winglike arms. We couldn’t get out of there fast
Keel goes on to relate the experience of Woodrow
Derenberger, who experienced a weird encounter on November 4th
(1966?) while driving on Route 7 outside of Parkersburg “when he
suddenly felt a tingling sensation in his forehead.” Then
thoughts from a being that identified itself as Indrid Cold from
the planet ‘Lanulos’ “began to spring full-blown in his mind.”
According to Keel:
“Two weeks later, though Woody wasn’t aware of it at the
time, two salesmen visited Mineral Wells and went from house to
house with their wares. They weren’t very interested in making
sales. At one house they offered bibles. At another, hardware.
At a third they were ‘Mormon missionaries from Salem, Oregon’ (a
UFO wave was taking place in Salem at that time). One man was
tall, blond, and looked like a Scandinavian. His partner was
short and slight, with pointed features and a dark olive
complexion. They asked questions about Woody and were
particularly interested in opinions on the validity of his
alleged contact…”
“High explosives were manufactured in Point Pleasant during
World War II. Seven miles outside of town part of the 2,500-acre
McClintic Wildlife Station, an animal preserve and bird
sanctuary, was ripped up. MILES OF UNDERGROUND TUNNELS WERE DUG,
linking camouflaged buildings and factories. One hundred
‘igloos’ were scattered across the fields and woods–huge
concrete domes with heavy steel doors where the finished
explosives could be safely stored. Dirt and grass covered the
domes so from the air the whole area had a harmless, pastoral
appearance. A few scattered buildings linked by improvised dirt
roads with no suggestion of all the activity going on below
ground. It looked like nothing more than what it was supposed to
be, a haven for birds and animals in the Ohio River valley.
“After the war most of the explosives were carted away. The
factories were dismantled. THE ENTRANCES AND EXITS OF THE
igloos were given to the Mason County government as possible
storage vaults. They still stand empty. Others were sold to the
Trojan-U.S. Powder Co. and the LFC Chemical Co. Some were leased
to American Cyanamid.
“…At 11:30 P.M. on the night of November 15, 1966, two
young couples from Point Pleasant, Mr. and Mrs. Roger Scarberry
and Mr. and Mrs. Steve Mallette, were driving through the TNT
area in the Scarberry’s 1957 Chevy. They were looking for
friends but no one seemed to be out that night. All of the
twisting back roads were deserted. The few homes scattered among
the igloos were dark.
“Roger, then a strapping blond eighteen-year-old, was
driving. They aimlessly made the circuit of the roads around the
igloos, returning to the old generator plant near the unlocked
gate. As they pulled alongside the plant, Linda Scarberry
gasped. They all looked into the blackness and saw two bright
red circles. They were about two inches in diameter and six
inches apart. Roger slammed on his brakes.
“‘What is it?’ Mary Mallette, a strikingly attractive
brunette, cried from the back seat.
“The lights bobbed away from the building and the startled
foursome saw they were attached to some huge animal.
“‘But it was those eyes that got us,’ Linda declared. ‘It
had two big eyes like automobile reflectors.’
“‘They were hypnotic,’ Roger continued. ‘For a minute we
could only stare at it. I couldn’t take my eyes off it.’
“It was grayish in color and walked on sturdy manlike legs.
“‘Let’s get out of here!’ Steve yelled.
“Roger stepped on the gas and they shot through the gates,
spun onto the exit road, and headed for Route 62…”
“At 7:15 A.M. on November 25, a young shoe salesman named
Thomas Ury was driving along Route 62 just north of the TNT area
when he noticed a tall, gray manlike figure standing in a field
by the road. ‘Suddenly it spread a pair of wings,’ Ury said,
‘and took off straight up, like a helicopter.
“‘It veered over my convertible and began going in circles
three telephone poles high.’
“He stepped on the gas as the creature zoomed down over his
vehicle. ‘It kept flying right over my car even though I was
doing seventy-five.’
“Mr. Ury sped into Point Pleasant and went straight to the
sheriff’s office thoroughly panicked. ‘I never saw anything like
it,’ he confided to Mrs. Hyre later. ‘I was so scared I just
couldn’t go to work that day. The thing had a wingspan every bit
of ten feet. It could be a bird, but I certainly never saw one
like it. I was afraid it was going to come right down right on
top of me.’
“The old familiar symptom, unreasonable terror, took hold of
him. ‘I’ve never had that feeling before. A weird kind of
fear,’ he said. ‘That fear gripped you and held you. Somehow,
be best way to explain it would be to say that the whole thing
just wasn’t right. I know that may not make sense, but that’s
the only way I can put into words what I felt.’
John Keel related still other incidents of encounters with
these fearful pterodactylin hominoids…
“‘Look at that crazy character coming downwind in that
plane,’ Eddie Adkins commented. He and four other men were
standing on the field of the Gallipolis, Ohio, airport, just
across the river from Point Pleasant on Sunday, December 4, 1966.
“At 3 P.M. that afternoon a large winged form came cruising
majestically along the Ohio River, just behind the airport. The
pilots later estimated that it was about three hundred feet in
the air and was traveling about seventy miles an hour. As it
drew closer they realized it was not a plane but was some kind of
enormous bird with an unusually long neck. It seemed to be
turning its head from side to side as if it were taking in the
scenery (Note: Scientists believe that saurian-reptilian
pterodactyls used their heads and neck as a ‘rudder’ while in
flight, moving them from side to side, constantly readjusting in
order to remain aloft – Branton). The wings were not flapping.
“Everett Wedge grabbed his camera and sprinted to his small
plane. By the time he was airborne the giant creature had
vanished somewhere down river.”
John Keel personally investigated the TNT area and claimed
that in one area an irrational “fear” gripped him. He would step
out of the large circle and the sensation would cease. He again
entered it and soon the induced atmosphere of fear and terror
would almost overcome him until he was forced to leave it. Could
this have been the site of an underground lair? Remember, the
entire area is honeycombed with tunnels which have for years been
sealed off to the public. Keel related other accounts of
encounters where witnesses saw these pterodactylin ‘mothmen’, one
of which entered one of the old buildings that led to the
tunnels. Investigators followed the creature into the dome but
the winged reptile seemed to have vanished. Keel related other
incidents involving the ‘Men In Black’ (who seemed to have a
definite connection with the so-called ‘mothmen’) Referring to
the investigations of a fellow researcher by the name of Dan
Drisin, he reveals:
“…During his second visit to Point Pleasant Dan uncovered
some Mothmen witnesses I had missed. And he also came across
some more baffling Men-In-Black-type reports. People up in the
back hills has been seeing mysterious unmarked panel trucks which
sometimes parked for hours in remote spots. There seemed to be
several of these trucks in the area and the rumor was that they
belonged to the air force. Men in neat coveralls were seen
monkeying with telephone and power lines but no one questioned
“A woman living alone on an isolated island north of
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, had two curious encounters
with the same kind of beings. She had moved to a tiny one-room
cabin on Keats Island in October 1967 and was soon seeing UFO
lights nightly. On January 29, 1968, following a close sighting
of ‘a long dark body with dim red and yellow lights at both
ends,’ she was surprised by two visitors. Both wore ‘neat, dark
coveralls’ and claimed to be employees of the hydroelectric
company. They offered to help her put up a stovepipe. The
younger of the two climbed on the roof of her cabin while the
other handed him the pipes. ‘I could hear the man on the ground
directing him and the one on the roof would answer, “Yes,
“After the pipe was installed, the pair joined her for tea.
They seemed ‘a little stiff.’ When they left she wondered how
they had known she was there because ‘the cabin couldn’t be seen
from the road (and) the stove was out when they arrived, so there
was no smoke from the chimney.’

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“On May 2, she again encountered two men. ‘One was the
‘boss’ Hydro man in his neat coveralls,’ she reported (CANADIAN
UFO REPORT, #13, 1972-73). ‘The other was different, younger and
about 19-20. As I entered the path, the boss man indicated with
his hand for the young man to get behind him. They got well off
the path and waited for me, the young man a little behind his
boss. The fellow stared at me as if I were some kind of
“This time she didn’t invite them for tea. One odd thing
she noticed during both meetings was their slow, careful way of
walking. They looked at their feet and stepped uncertainly.
“The next day a jeep came along the road, containing four
men inspecting lines… ‘carelessly dressed, workaday men, none
in coveralls. The boss wasn’t obviously so. They expressed no
surprise at seeing me there, no concern or any particular
interest. I told them two of their men had already been around
the day before, inspecting the lines. They assured me
yesterday’s men weren’t Hydro men, that somebody had been
“pulling my leg.”‘
“Somebody was also pulling a lot of legs in cosmopolitan
Long Island. In West Virginia I had heard some stories about
three men who looked ‘like Indians’ and were accompanied by a
fourth man, more normal-looking and very shabbily dressed in
contrast to the other three. So I was nonplused when I heard
identical descriptions from people on Long Island.
“An elderly woman who lived alone in a house near the summit
of Mount Misery, the highest point on Long Island, had received a
visit from this quartet in early April 1967, immediately after a
severe rainstorm.
“‘They had high cheekbones and very red faces, like a bad
sunburn,’ she told me. ‘They were very polite but they said my
land belonged to their tribe and they were going to get it back.
What frightened me was their feet. They didn’t have a car…they
must have walked up that muddy hill…but their shoes were
spotlessly clean. There was no trace of mud or water where they
walked in my house.’
“That same week another visitor came to Mount Misery. This
was a woman with striking white hair who claimed to represent a
local newspaper. She carried a book ‘like a big ledger’ and
asked the witness a number of personal questions about her family
background. When I later checked with the newspaper I found they
employed no one of that description.
“The local Mount Misery expert was Miss Jane P. Paro, a
radio personality then with station WBAB in Babylon, New York.
Miss Paro is a dark-haired, dark-eyed young lady with a soft,
haunting voice. At that time she conducted an interview show,
largely devoted to the historical psychic lore of the region.
Soon after she reported some UFO sightings around Mount Misery
she began to receive all manner of crank calls, both at the
station and on her UNLISTED home phone. METALLIC VOICES ordered
her to meet them on ‘the Mount’ (she didn’t go).
“…Mount Misery is a heavily wooded hill with a few narrow
dirt roads slicing through it and a number of large mansions set
back among the trees. The late Henry Stimson, secretary of war
during World War II, maintained a lavish estate on the summit.
For decades the Mount was known as a haunted place, THE SITE OF A
1967, young couples necking on the back roads began to see low-
flying UFOs, particularly around a field that was used as a
junkyard for old cars. Others claimed to see a giant hairy
monster with gleaming red eyes…”

Some sources have indicated that the large 7-ft. tall
“Lizard Like” beings such as were described earlier in this File,
have been seen in deep underground tunnel networks below the
general southwestern areas of Albuquerque, New Mexico (Dulce);
Las Vegas, Nevada (Groom Lake), and Salt Lake City, Utah, among
other areas. One source, a worker, reported to the 20/20 group
(an aerial-conspiratorial-subsurface research organization) that
he had seen, quite by accident, a large 7 ft. tall green-skinned
Lizard-like sauroid with a group of (controlled?) human
scientists in an elevator some 30 STORIES underground within the
underground base complex that runs under southern Nevada and
California. He was convinced that the sighting was somehow an
‘accident’, and that the elevator door should not have opened on
that particular level! The following article describes what
might be a similar group of beings, although these creatures seem
to have been somewhat more human-size in their configuration and
apparently intent on passing themselves off as human-like
entities. The account appeared in the Omaha, Nebraska ‘METRO
UPDATE’ for Oct. 29 – Nov. 4, 1990. Written by reporter Patricia
C. Ress, the article was titled: ‘LINCOLN MAN RECOUNTS ABDUCTIONS
“People have been talking about flying saucers for about 45
years now — longer if you count the reports of the so-called
‘foo fighters’ seen by pilots on both sides during World War II.
But within the past 20 years we’ve been hearing more about a more
frightening side to these visitations – abduction by aliens.
“The most famous case was that of Barney and Betty Hill, two
New Englanders returning home from vacation and unable to account
for a large block of missing time. Under hypnosis, a very
frightening and detailed account of alien abduction emerged.
Later there was Betty Andreason, who told of aliens who took her
through walls and closed doors.
“Then came Budd Hopkins, who made a study of such abductions
AT COPELY WOODS.’ Next came the ‘Gulf Breeze Sightings’ in
Florida, and most recently author Whitley Strieber’s accounts of
his own abductions in his books ‘COMMUNION’ and ‘TRANSFORMATION.’
“While most of these abductions took place in the East, some
say that visiting aliens have been just as busy in the Midwest —
even Nebraska. A Lincoln man recently recounted his experiences
during a talk at the Oakcrest Institute in Elkhorn.
“John Foster has been an engineer in Lincoln for a number of
years. Lincoln, in fact, is his home town and the place where
his abduction experiences began back in 1950. A soft-spoken
down-home type of man, Foster reminds people of a young Joel
“‘Alien abduction is a terrifying and traumatic experience,’
Foster told the audience. ‘Psychiatric counselors don’t know how
to deal with this — even if you can get them to believe you.’
“Foster has gotten help and understanding from people like
Dr. Leo Sprinkle of the University of Wyoming, who has dealt with
numerous alien abduction cases. He also has been the subject of
ridicule and rejection by both family and friends.
“‘Often in a UFO abduction experience, things happen that
are absolutely unbelievable. I have been told that IT IS NOT
finally reached the point where I no longer care what people
think of me.’ Foster said.
“He said he wasn’t fully aware of what had happened to him
over the years until the 1980s. In 1981 he was sitting outside
his home in Lincoln with a friend and on a lark, they both said a
prayer (or incantation? – Branton) that they would see a flying
saucer and soon after, one appeared, he said.
“On another occasion in March, 1966, he saw a light out
behind the trees as he sat on his patio, he said, and the sight
triggered a distant memory of something that had happened to him
when he was in grade school in Lincoln in 1950.
“He said 40 or 50 people were outside watching a movie when
swirling lights suddenly appeared, ALONG WITH A CRAFT THAT
He said he saw a craft appear WITH THREE LITTLE MEN who appeared
to be fixing it. He felt an overwhelming desire to get inside
the craft, but once he did, he discovered it was in a different
form. ‘We got a lesson about history, mankind and something
about Indians and buffalo,’ he said.
“When he looked around him, Foster said, he noticed that
everyone else seemed to be FROZEN IN TIME. ‘They all looked like
statues,’ he said, he saw a woman who told him she had FIXED
“He said he was taken to an examining room BY CREATURES THAT
LOOKED ‘LIKE FROGS OR LIZARDS.’ The ‘woman’ told him they were
the educators and would supervise his learning experience, he
said. Among other strange things, Foster recalled THAT THE
“After he was examined, Foster said, he was sent back out of
the craft to the crowd below. The woman (ie. the being that had
‘fixed’ itself up to appear as a ‘woman’ – Branton) spoke to him
in almost a scolding tone, saying that from then on he would be a
good boy and mind his parents, he said. The woman seemed to know
a lot about him, including the fact that he and some friends had
stolen some pop and candy from a store across the street, he
“In October 1986 Foster went camping with his wife and
children at Niobrara Park and he had a short visitation which
awakened more memories of previous abductions, he said.
“By mid-December he recalled 50 abduction experiences, he
said, and by January that number had grown to 2,000 and by
January 1987, he had recalled 3,000 abductions.
“Foster has recorded memories of 50 of the abductions in
detail, another 450 in short notations and many others by
locations only, he said.
“‘There are roughly two areas of the so-called close
encounters,’ Foster said. ‘These may mesh together, but there
are the abductees who seem to be taken aboard a craft to be
examined and the contactees who appear to be contacted throughout
life and seem to have an assignment.’
“In June of 1987 Foster and his daughter met with several
other contactees and he had the feeling that he had known them
all his life, he said.
“They helped him recall experiences from coast to coast and
from Canada to Mexico, he said.
“‘I believe the UFO experiences are directed at you
personally,’ Foster said, ‘but there are times when they can seem
to address the population in general.
symbols are very intricate and are meaningless to most. Could
they be some type of ‘signal’ to those who have been abducted-
programmed that are intended to ‘trigger’ some subconscious
reaction in certain abductees? Admittedly, this is only one of
many possibilities – Branton)
“Foster said profound things happened to him during his
abductions and the world should know about them. HE WAS SHOWN
THINGS DIRECTLY AT WILL, he said, and was told things about
scientific matters over the years, only to see them discovered
LEVELS.’ (Note: Notice the remarkable similarity between this
encounter and the Brian Scott encounter cited earlier, where the
Reptilians and the para-physical ‘Host’, or the ‘Infernals’ were
working together – Branton).
“On the initial level of the abduction experience there is a
kind of excitement, Foster said, while on the deeper level, life
plans emerge and there is interaction with people who have had
similar experiences. Foster said there are four witnesses who
can recall parts of at least three of his encounters.
“Foster said that to document his experiences, he has made
several drawings and paintings. He believes he has encountered
at least 13 different kinds of crafts.
“Foster said he remembers abductions that involved his
friends when they were teenagers. A large floating phone booth
would descend from a dark fog, he said, and a voice seemingly
from a loud speaker would urge them to ‘gather around for eternal
wisdom and knowledge — and something else about Indians and
buffalo,’ he said (Note: was the promise of ‘eternal wisdom’ the
bait used to entrap them into the Reptilian agenda? We realize
this sounds rather simplistic but traditions do say that this
exact same strategy was used by the original ‘Serpent’ to destroy
man’s connection with the Almighty and, subsequently, his
divinely-given authority over creation, including his dominion
over the BEASTS!? – Branton).
“The voice over the loudspeaker would call them by name AND
COULD AT TIMES SOUND SARCASTIC (as a manipulator might sound? –
Branton). On one occasion, his friends SHOT AT THE BOOTH WITH
“When he was at Mahoney Lake in 1987, Foster said, he again
saw both the booth and the saucer. He asked the entities to
quite bothering him because he was disturbed when he couldn’t
recall his abductions, he said, AND THEY TOLD HIM IF HE
“They also told him that if he didn’t want to have any more
abduction experiences, he would meet some people who would ‘HELP
HIM BECOME MORE METAPHYSICAL,’ he said, and he later met such
“He said he recalls being pulled up into a kind of floating
bus and being taken into the future. He declined to say what he
saw (Note: Since the future depends in individual decisions, it
would be impossible for anyone other than God himself to ‘see’
the future as this would require an ability to see what ‘free
will’ decisions people would make. Is it possible that a
‘virtual reality’ device was used in this instance for some
manipulatory purpose? – Branton).
“Foster said he was given experiments to do as an engineer.
‘They worked, but they shouldn’t have, according to what we
know,’ he said.
“He said the ‘guides’ told him they were preparing people
for a time when the chosen would be taken away.
“…’I was told to awaken people to other dimensions and to
participate in these realms,’ he said…” (i.e. open themselves
to the occult and supernatural powers in order to more easily be
controlled and manipulated by such powers? – Branton)

The following information was sent to us via a researcher
who is investigating a continuous abduction of a young (at the
time) nine-year-old boy in southern Nevada, possibly to
underground levels below that same area. Names, addresses and
other details have been deleted on request to protect the
sources. We quote from a series of notes exactly as they were
sent to us, with our emphasis added:
“1: The ‘greys’, he says they don’t use words but
HISSING SOUND AT HIM (possibly the ‘large-nosed’ grays or smaller
reptoids being referred to here? – Branton).
GOES (Note: This is a common observation made by people who claim
to have been abducted to aerial AND/OR subsurface realms –
“3: This is what they look like to him (a drawing was
included depicting a traditional ‘gray’ of somewhat ‘wiry’ build
– Branton).
“4: This is what the uniform they wear looks like to him.
He says the box in the middle has different colored flashing
“5: This is the large ‘boat’, A SORT OF FLOATING ISLAND HE
WAS BROUGHT TO (Note: Some aspects of the abduction suggest that
this was located in large water-filled subterranean caverns –
“6: These are the hybrids he sees. He says that they sit in
a large circle holding hands. There is one small candle with a
very large flame going. HE SAYS HE IS NOT AFRAID OF THE HYBRIDS
(Note: probably hu-brids with a human soul-matrix, which
according to certain accounts are more or less ‘slaves’ to the
grays and reptoids from birth. Many of the women who have
been impregnated during abductions and who have had their child
removed from them a few months into its term are allegedly
carriers to these hybrids or hu-brids, although it is possible
that re-brids or ‘hybrids’ without a soul-matrix–i.e. sauroids–
might be gestated in this manner also. The hu-brids are
allegedly taken to bases underground and/or possibly
installations on or below other planetary spheres – Branton).
THERE IS A FEMALE (hu-brid – Branton) who BLENDS with him and he
says it feels very peaceful and good. When asked if the greys
were the only aliens he sees, HE DREW THE REPTILIAN, THESE ARE
“Please share with us your input on how to help this boy.
We know what is happening here and we are ready and willing to do
anything we have to. Love & Light, sincerely (Names deleted by

The following letter was sent to researcher Val Valerian and
was dated May 13, 1992. It states in part:
“…The stranger who has been in the house with his unknown
monitoring device apparently is not pleased with the fact that I
placed a magnet in the vicinity of the monitoring device… I put
the magnet next to the place… and within 24 hours there was a
generalized feeling of freedom and relief in the air. My
thinking processes seemed to flow easier and clear. I guess one
could say that there was less tension in general wherever I
happen to be. On May 7th, I was in the parking lot to pick up
Sheila from work (about 9:30 a.m.) reading a book. A strong
feeling came over me to doze off. As I did, I dreamed that I was
in my car reading my book when my ‘visitor’ fellow opened the
door, but rather brought the monitoring device and left it in the
back seat of the car. He then jumped out and slammed the door
with a pop that woke me up! Strange. The ‘dream’ and dozing
period lasted less than 10 minutes and the ‘dream’ is one of
those rare types that one does not forget. What I found was
particularly curious was that I knew who the fellow was, what the
device was, and I actually saw the device well enough to describe
it. Two days later the right brake system failed. And, that
indescribable weight seems to be back in the air, again. Now, I
shall place another magnet in the back seat of the car…”
This person described the ‘entity’ as follows: “…Face is
PUPILS. Eyes are round. Nose is small with vertical slits.
Ears are very small and flat against head. Symbol (can’t
remember) on left side of chest garment. Garment looks like
confederate grey uniform. Doesn’t fit tight. Rather like sport
coat. Skin color is light brown. Face is expressive and shows
fear. Device was black on round pedestal and appeared to be
solid metal.”

In early 1992 the UNIVERSAL Company’s Debut Network aired a
made-for-TV version of John Carpenter’s movie ‘THEY LIVE’, which
was based on the premise of an alien race of bulge-eyed (saurian-
reptilian?) creatures that had infiltrated human society,
disguised as humans, and which were in the process of subtly
taking control of powerful social positions. They were
assistance of a small group of ‘human power elite’ who through
deception, hidden altered frequency transmitters, television,
etc., helped to keep the masses in a constant state of semi-
consciousness, in which they went about their business in a
slightly catatonic state sufficient to keep them ‘blind’ or
‘asleep’ to the point that the aliens and their subversive
activities remained just outside of their conscious perception.
Also in the movie, secret subliminal messages via all branches of
the media were broadcast throughout all levels of society,
keeping the sleeping masses in a constant state of tranquilized
apathy and subservience. A HORRIFYING prospect to say the lest.
Also in the movie, the aliens utilized ‘joint’ underground bases
beneath major cities which were more-or-less the back-stage of
the alien control scenario.
Incidentally, Disneyworld in Florida contains an underground
tunnel network with hidden entrances which the employees of the
park use as a ‘back stage’, dressing rooms, and other facilities
necessary to keep up THE ILLUSION of ‘Disneyworld’. This is of
course all innocent enough, yet John Carpenter in his movie
reveals the idea that the huge underground ‘bases’ beneath major
cities are being used as ‘back stages’ in order to keep an
infinitely more diabolical ‘illusion’ going, with the help of
power-elite who are assisting in the subjugation of the masses
for personal gain. The movie ‘THEY LIVE’ was based on the short
story by Ray Nelson, ‘Eight O’Clock in the Morning’. One might
wonder where Nelson got the inspiration for his story, especially
when we realize that the subject of the story and the movie is
very similar to events which, according to numerous sources, are
actually taking place as we have seen in these Files.
Also, in the movie it is the Christian element which first
‘wakes up’ to what is going on, and who begin the revolutionary
resistance movement in order to destroy the stranglehold of the
aliens upon human society… Could this scenario be somewhat
prophetical as the book of Matthew (13:24-28) seems to suggest?

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The anonymous Intelligence worker, Commander X, publicly
released details of an incident which may well have come right
out of a John Carpenter movie, if not for the fact that the
Commander himself, from his own high-security position within the
Intelligence Community, is convinced that it might be a reality:
“…Another story comes from a private stationed on the
surface at Dulce. He soon realized something mighty ‘odd’ was
going on around there, but it took a while to put his finger on
“‘One morning last September, I was working on a routine job
when another of the young enlistees, a mechanic, came in with a
small rush job he wanted welded at once. He had the print and
proceeded to show me exactly what he wanted. We are both bending
over the bench in front of the welder when I happened to look
directly into his face. It seemed to suddenly become covered
with a semi-transparent film or cloud. His features faded and in
their place appeared a ‘thing’ with bulging eyes, no hair and
scales for skin. I stood and looked at it for about 20 seconds.
WHATEVER IT WAS stood and looked at me without moving. Then the
strange face seemed to fade away, and at the same time recede
into the ordinary face of the young man underneath. The
dissipation of the imposed face lasted or took about five seconds
before it was completely gone and I was standing there weak, my
mouth open and staring at the young man who had come in with the
rush order. The young man did not seem to be conscious of the
elapsed time when I had observed all this but went right on
talking about the job as if nothing had happened.
“‘This is hard to take but I assure you it was still harder
for me. No one can realize a jolt you could get from seeing
anything like this until they have experienced it for themselves.
It was several days before I had myself convinced that maybe
after all what I had seen was real and that I was not suffering
from illusions and the beginning of insanity. Days passed before
I saw this particular phenomena again. The next time was later
at night at the guard house near the front gate, on the way to
work. I had purchased some small items and on arriving I went
around to the guard house with my slip to retrieve my package.
There was only one guard on duty. I handed him the check and he
began to look at the package, taking his time. I waited a
minute, then happened to look directly at him again. His face
began to change. Again a face of a strange creature was imposed.
You could see through the imposed face for a few seconds and then
it became the only one visible (solidified is the word) and again
about 20 seconds duration. Again five seconds for dissipation
and the guard started to move normally again, found my package
and gravely handed it to me and I walked out without a word being

Researcher Val Valerian has, incidentally, described a very
similar event. Valerian has researched alien phenomena and
interaction with human beings since 1969. He spent 18 months in
Southeast Asia from 1970-71 as a combat photographer, where he
saw much UFO activity. After spending four years in England from
1980 to 1984 he gathered all the top research at his disposal and
released what became known as ‘The Krill Papers,’ forerunner of
the 381-page book, ‘The Matrix’, published in 1987. He began
networking with researchers worldwide and started an organization
known as Nevada Aerial Research Group. Between 1988 and 1989 he
functioned as Nevada State Section Director for MUFON. In 1990
he was appointed interim Associate Director for UFO Contact
Center International and was a member of the Aerial Phenomenon
Research Organization. In 1988 NAR began issuing a small
newsletter detailing research findings. By 1990, this newsletter
became known as ‘The Leading Edge’ and has grown to a monthly
100-page publication. The massive 581 page work entitled MATRIX
II was released in 1990. In April of 1991, NAR moved to
Washington State and was renamed as ‘Leading Edge Research
Group’. Valerian has a degree both in Civil Engineering and
Psychology and had significant input into Nippon Television
investigations on alien activities, the research that stimulated
the production of the 1989 KLAS award-winning program entitled
In June of 1992 Valerian released the following information
through his Newsletter:
HOSPITAL IN WASHINGTON — Many of you will recall the film ‘They
Live’ that came out several years ago, in which human society was
portrayed as having been thoroughly infused with alien humanoids.
The movie dealt with this topic rather well, and included the
additional viewpoint that humans have been manipulated to the
point where even the idea of alien manipulation of human society
would be viewed as impossible. For this to even occur, there
would have to be an ongoing relationship between various alien
humanoid species and covert elements of the government. This
concept is usually met with some degree of disbelief – surely
nothing like this could ever happen – we would know about it,
wouldn’t we? Or would we? How do you go about proving to the
satisfaction of empirical rationalists that such a thing could in
fact be the case? Since a significant percentage of humans view
even the possibility of alien life as ridiculous, it is no easy
task to breach the barrier of human ignorance, superstition, and
“Despite the general condition of human ignorance, there is
a significant body of information that has accumulated over the
past decade that indicates that there have been many scenarios in
which human covert factions have more or less reluctantly
cooperated with various alien species, due to overlapping
transitional purposes. Much of this information has been
forthcoming because of the nature of the LE Group and its
function as a major focal point for worldwide networking. A lot
of information has been coming our way for a long time.
“About a year ago, we ran into SEVERAL PEOPLE who stated
that they ‘had heard’ that ‘REPTILIAN HUMANOIDS WERE WORKING AT A
these statements were simply filed away in ‘rumor’ status,
pending the arrival of something more substantial. Descriptions
of the nature of and appearance of alien humanoid forms that
could be termed ‘REPTILIAN’ vary widely. REPTILIAN HUMANOIDS
WITH TAILS. Pictures showing some of these entities were
published in an ITALIAN magazine and eventually ended up in the
United States in The Leading Edge. Logic would seem to tell us
that if alien humanoids were in fact in collusion with military
medical personnel at a hospital, they would not in fact have the
appearance of anything other than humans, or be close enough to
humans to blend in. About a month ago, the nature of
synchronicity brought me to an espresso bar, where I chanced to
engage a lady in her early 50’s in some small conversation about
an entirely unrelated matter. She had been a nurse for some
twenty years, and sixteen of those twenty years had been spent
working for the U.S. Army. She retired from the service and was
now job hunting in the local area. She was very professional,
and seemed to know a lot about the nursing field. Gradually, her
conversation got around to a ‘very unusual place’, Madigan
Military Hospital, which is located on Route 5 south of Seattle.
She had applied for work at the hospital and noticed that it was
indeed a hospital unlike any she had ever seen before. Madigan
is a brand new $150 million dollar facility, built about a year
or so ago. From her description, there are small R2D2-type
robots that shuttle prescriptions between floors, all the
equipment is prototype ‘one-of-a-kind’, like laser x-rays and a
lot of equipment that was extremely high tech. It was not this
alone which peaked my interest, but a comment she made later.
She made the statement that when she entered a specific lab in
the hospital, she noticed that all the personnel were extremely
absorbed in their work – nothing too uncommon about that. But
then she stated that she had the thought that some of the
equipment looked quite ‘alien’, AND TWO MEN WHO LOOKED EXACTLY
THAT THEY BOTH MOVED IN UNISON. That got my interest. She then
stated that during the tour of the facility, the individual who
was escorting her said that the top floor of the hospital AND TWO
OF THE SUB-BASEMENT FLOORS were Top Secret R&D areas and were off
limits to both military and civilian personnel. That really got
my attention.
“Subsequently, I ran into a cable repairman who was
installing cable TV in a nearby town, and decided on a hunch to
mention to him about the strange nature of Madigan. The hunch
paid off. He said he has been involved in the installation of
fiber optic networks between the floors of the hospital when it
was in its construction stage, and that there was a three foot
space in between the floors where the optics ran.
“Since these observations were the result of her (the
nurse’s) preliminary interview, I talked to her about the idea of
getting more information, since she would be going back at least
one more time. She agreed to make some tapes of her
observations. The transcript of these tapes is as follows:
“VISIT TO MADIGAN HOSPITAL – The entrance to Madigan
hospital is off of Interstate 5 past Olympia, Washington. The
exit is marked as Madigan Hospital, Camp Murray Exit. As you
enter the area the hospital sits to the right – a massive white
structure. As you enter the parking lot, there is a pond and
sunken area that runs through a bridge which connects the
‘medical mall’ area to a three story building that serves as the
main core of the hospital, where the services like x-ray, nuclear
medicine and other services are performed.
“The three story complex is connected to an eight-story
tower dubbed ‘the nursing tower.’ The tower has a floor that is
closed off, and I could find no access to it.
“I entered the front of the hospital, and the lobby was very
typical, but not typical of a hospital of this size. I then went
to the information desk and was greeted by an oriental Specialist
4th Class, who was seated. He seemed very low key and laid back.
I was directed to Human Resources.
“As I walked through the corridors, I noticed how beautiful
and calm I was beginning to feel. The colors are very soft and
conducive to feeling mellow (a ‘tranquil-ized’ atmosphere
designed to negate any apprehensions or suspicions? – Branton).
“The military personnel WERE VERY SLOW-MOVING (which has not
been my experience in the past, having served five years as an
Army nurse) and LOW KEY. I went to the Human Resources and asked
about an application, and was directed to a Master Sergeant –
director of personnel.
“Having been a medical technologist for the better part of
25 years, the equipment I saw at the hospital was far beyond
anything I have ever seen. I was shown an area where there was a
long room with computer banks on both sides where both civilian
and military personnel were working. Before entering the room, I
was asked to stand in front of the door, where I was scanned by
some beam-like light. I was told that my thermal pattern was
being recorded in order to permit my entry to the room.
“Off this room was another room where procedures were
conducted on patients, and I noticed that a patient walked over
and climbed on an exam table. The procedure they were doing
always requires that the patient must be sedated, HOWEVER I
doctor can touch a patient in that way and sedate him?
“I looked around at the other personnel in the room at this
time. There were two, a Private First Class and a Specialist 4th
Class at opposite ends of the room from where I was standing.
Sergeant and happened to say something to myself very softly
while having the thought how strange these people seemed. BOTH
GOT THIS STRANGE FEELING. I had heard before from a friend whose
brother had made the uncharacteristic comment that ‘ALIENS WORKED
and went back to the Sergeant’s office (Note: This brings up the
disturbing question: If many or most of the high-level workers at
Madigan are of a hominoid sauroid-reptilian or ‘chameleon’ nature
and are operating via a type of ‘collective consciousness’, then
where are/were the true humans majority that should have been
there? As science fiction as this might sound, is there a slight
possibility that they might have been terminated-eliminated and
replaced by alien ‘counterparts’. As they say ‘The truth is
often stranger than fiction!’ – Branton).
“A month later, I returned to Madigan with a friend to see,
without telling her anything of my experience, if she saw and
felt the same things I did. She is very sensitive to variations
in electromagnetic fields, and eventually had a headache and
became nauseated.
“There are many other things about this place. Between the
floors there are spaces where small robots move to deliver
supplies to all the wards and other areas in the hospital,
according to the Sergeant. I was told that there is no reason
for personnel to go into these areas – that the robots do all
that. I did see one of the robot devices. It looked like the
R2D2 character on ‘star wars’.
“My friend and I entered through what is known as the clinic
mall. This area houses the outpatient clinic. THERE WERE VERY
that are off limits to all personnel, military and civilian, and
that these areas were classified Top Secret and were research and
development areas (Note: On an earlier visit as the reader may
recall this nurse was told that there were only two ‘levels’
below the hospital. Or could it be similar to the case
surrounding Dulce, New Mexico and Groom Lake, Nevada – that the
more ‘inside’ knowledge of a high-security nature one has, the
more they become aware of ‘even deeper and deeper’ levels to the
installations. We are not suggesting that there are more than 3
sub-levels to Madigan, but merely noting a strange phenomena
concerning the apparent inconsistencies in stories of witnesses
around such installations when the subject of underground levels
and the number of those levels comes up – Branton). THERE ARE
“The three-story main service area has a complex on top of
the way the hospital is built, there are a lot of ‘DEAD AREAS’
“The personal feeling we both got being in the hospital WAS
GETTING A DULL HEADACHE. It wasn’t until we had driven SEVERAL
MILES from the facility that we started to feel better.”

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