Dialog on the End Of The World in 2012

From: Gray Shockley ([email protected])
Subject: The Year 2012 of the NWO [was:!! New Militia Bust– Sivik !! Update 3]
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Date: 2004-04-08 09:30:03 PST
 

On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 4:59:37 -0500, Joseph Pothier wrote
(in message <[email protected]>):

> Good Morning Newsgroup Readers,
>
> Associated Press reports today [040408] that Braveheart Militia
> militiaman Darrell Sivik’s erstwild cohort George Bilunka will be held
> without bond until his trial.
>
> The article does make an interesting point which I wish to query the
> newsgroup’s more right-leaning members

[chuckle] I’m not sure I qualify but . . .

> about: the story refers to
> Bilunka expecting “the end of the world in 2012.”

I heard about 2012 long before I heard about Y2K (one of the benefits of
being married to an anthropologist).

What I, originally, heard was that the Mayan Calendar “ran out” in 2012. Then
there was a mention of one of Edgar Cayce’s [whom I haven’t read in decades]
sessions mentioning 2012.

I just ran a google search on

            +2012 +cayce

to see if my memory were correct and came up with:

                               <http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/>

which is /really/ interesting.

> Is the right-wing resurrecting the failed
> 2000 Millennialism already?

In my completely ignorant opinion, this appears to be more likely than not.

Background: okay, for the last fifty years plus, the United States has had a
specific “enemy” and a number – in the last fifteen or so years – much more
nebulous “enemies”.

“Godless, atheistic, non-Biblical, anti-Christian Communism”, of course. Then
followed with what appeared to be the “new threat” of “secular humanism”.

In 1995, I was driving from Virginia to Mississppi and a Sunday and as I was
going through the Carolinas and part of Georgia, I listened to sermons from
five widely-separated stations. All five of the preachers were preaching
against this “secular humanism”. There was no doubt in my mind that this
“secular humanism” was the new “enemy”; that we had internalized the “enemy”
and as Pogo once said, “We have met the enemy and he is us”.

And it seemed to disappear as quickly as it appeared; amalgamated rather
quickly into the new, expanded and improved internal “enemy”, the rather
silly-sounding “New World Order”.

But the Y2K component ended up a bust and it – combined with the criminal
convictions of so many people who were associated with the “pay-triot and
not-for-prophet” groups – ended up with more people ridiculing – rather than
being impressed by – these groups. [end synopsis]

> Are you now expecting the Second Coming in 2012,

I think you may have asked the most interesting question of all those which
will be asked in the next eight years: is this, heck, /can/ this be twisted
from a calendar in a Western religion to a “religious event” in an Eastern
religion.

Now Edgar Cayce was a Presbyterian Sunday School teacher but – I think – he
made direct reference to the Mayan Calendar so that would, perhaps, still be
too tenuous a link to Christianity.

> or is this just the Second Fleecing?
>

My guess is yes. But I still want to know
how 2012 is going to be fed to the victims.

 

Gray Shockley
——————————————————–
When trouble arises and things look bad, there is always one
individual who perceives a solution and is willing to take
command. Very often, that individual is crazy. -Author Unk

 

> Yours,
>
> JP
> Happy Harpy
>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> +++++++++++++++++++
>
> Associated Press, `Second Alleged Militia Member to Remain In Jail,` 040408.
>
> ERIE, Pa. (AP)”” The second of two men federal authorities say sold a
> homemade machine gun to an undercover federal agent will also remain in
> jail until his trial on federal weapons charges, a magistrate has ruled.
>
> Federal Magistrate Susan Baxter on Wednesday ordered George Bilunka, 59,
> of Atlantic, held without bond after hearing testimony from federal
> agents that he had started his own militia and stockpiled weapons at a
> homemade bunker in preparation for the end of the world in 2012.
>
> Bilunka’s attorney, David Ridge, unsuccessfully argued that Bilunka
> should be allowed out on bail because he has no criminal record and
> wasn’t likely to flee.
>
> Federal prosecutors claimed Bilunka is the self-proclaimed leader of a
> militia called the Christian American Patriots Survivalists, who believe
> that the end of the world is near. Bilunka’s goal was to survive until
> 2009, when he believed Jesus Christ would return and usher the end of
> the world 2012.
>
> To guarantee his survival, federal prosecutors said Bilunka built a
> bunker on his land, about 70 miles north of Pittsburgh, and filled it
> with six months of food and supplies. He also stockpiled about 60
> legally owned guns and plenty of ammunition at his home, preparing for a
> standoff with authorities, said Assistant U.S. Attorney Marshall Piccinini.
>
> During testimony, federal agents said they believed Bilunka was more
> dangerous than his co-defendant”” 55-year-old Darrell Sivik of Meadville,
> who is also being held without bond.
>
> Prosecutors allege Sivik claims to lead another militia and planned to
> muster his members at Tionesta Creek in Forest County if government
> agents moved against the group. Sivik planned to lead others to a nearby
> hunting camp where he had arms stashed for a stand against the government.
>
> Both men were arrested last month on charges of unlawfully possessing
> and transferring a firearm, namely a Sten gun”” an easily manufactured
> 9mm machine gun developed by the British in World War II.
>
> Federal prosecutors claim the men sold the machine gun to an undercover
> agent for $300 last month. Sivik, a gunsmith, has also been charged with
> making the homemade machine gun.